Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.
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If you are a member of the BRF and have an HRH or HM, you don’t really have a surname
William and Harry were born to THE Prince of Wales (Charles) They were Prince William of Wales and Prince Harry of Wales. The use of Wales as a surname when needed is an informal choice. Just as Lady Louise is actually HRH Princess Louise, but has chosen not to be styled as such. When William and Harry were created Royal Dukes, those titles carry higher rank. They were still Princes of Wales, but then used Cambridge and Sussex when needed. Williams children were born Princes and Princess of Cambridge. Harry’s were not acknowledged initially but were born Prince and Princess of Sussex Now William is THE Prince of Wales, a unique Princely title which outranks the royal dukes. He and his family therefore use Wales now Technically, they are of the House of Windsor and would use it as a surname Mountbatten-Windsor. As the titles fall off in subsequent generations and they do have a surname, it is Mountbatten Windsor |
Anonymous
Cousins Lili and Lottie — adorable. |
Anonymous
So adorable that they’ve never met. |
Anonymous
The names are super cute. |
Anonymous
It was noted in the media that Prince William filled out his first two children's birth certificates himself. There are photographs of them online. They were notable for describing the parents' occupations as Prince and Princess of the UK. |
Anonymous
Diana was Princess Charles just like Meghan is Princess Henry. |
Anonymous
| Totally random question: does Camilla now outrank Charles’ siblings since becoming Queen? |
Anonymous
Yes. But once Charles dies, William can strip her and her children of all of their titles and honors. |
Anonymous
Queen Consort. I believe yes and no and I base this belief on what I read about Kate and Meagan. When Camilla is with Charles, she outranks his siblings. When she is by herself, she does not outrank the siblings. Like I said, I think I read that about Kate and Meagan. When Kate is with William, the Edwards/Sophies/Andrews/Annes et. al would have to curtsy to her. When she is not with William, they wouldn't have to curtsy to her. |
Anonymous
I didn't think Camilla's children have any titles or honors? |
Anonymous
This. It is hard now that we have democracies and thinking everyone always had a last name. In many parts of Europe, families got last names for tax purposes. Royals and such didn't have last names. We peasant serfs (that's what my family was) belonged to lords until the late 1700s/early 1800s. The royals, had the royal "we" because they were the country, so to speak. No need for surnames. |
Anonymous
What do you mean by rank? Her status as queen comes from her spouse. She's the Queen Consort. Her husband has rank. |
Anonymous
| I understand that the boys were princes of Wales because their dad was The Prince of Wales. When Charles became king and William became The Prince of Wales, Harry could no longer use Wales, correct? So if he hadn't been made a Duke, he would just use Windsor? |
Anonymous
Yes, it's sort of weird they want to go by titles tbh. The whole point was they wanted no part in any of it and were condemning it. |
Anonymous
It really is. |