Can someone explain BRF last names? I’m so confused.

[Anonymous]

Harry and William used their dad’s title as their last name as a child. They were born Prince X of Wales, but were not THE prince of wales. They had no actual title until they got married, then were styled Dukes of Sussex/Cambridge by the Queen. Now that Charles is King, he has granted William the Prince of Wales title in addition, which is a better title.

This is in contrast to Diana. She was Diana, the Princess of Wales because she was married to Charles, but she was not Princess Diana because she was not born a princess.

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Anonymous wrote:But since Harry left the BRF, why would he uses title as his family’s last name instead of his actual last name: Mountbatten-Windsor or simply Windsor?

Harry didn’t leave the family, he chose to not be a working senior Royal. He is still a prince and a member of the immediate family of the King.

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

Before marrying and receiving his own title, William and Harry used their father’s title in the same way as their children go by their current titles now. William went from William of Wales through his father’s title to the Duke of Cambridge then back to the Prince of Wales when it became his highest title.

They were born Mountbatten-Windsor. There was no "going back to the Prince of Wales">

They were born HRH first names ( had to look it up) with no last name.

[Anonymous]

I believe I read that Princess Beatrice went by Beatrice York at times.

Usually credit cards are cited for the name spottings.

[Anonymous]

Stop feeding the troll. OP knows the answer to this question. And if she doesn’t she knows to ask google not DCUM

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Anonymous wrote:Stop feeding the troll. OP knows the answer to this question. And if she doesn’t she knows to ask google not DCUM

Not OP. I thought I knew the answer but read a lot of different explanations on this thread. Give op the benefit of the doubt.

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My god the paperwork nightmare alone

So glad Meghan got out of there. the princesses that marry in are always in danger. Reminds me of the upcoming Netflix movie damsel. I hope Kate gets better. Seems like William is the type that would metaphorically throw her to the dragons just like his dad did.

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure when William and Harry were young they went by the last name Wales. When they became married they were given titles of Duke Of Cambridge and Duke of Sussex. When The Queen died Prince Charles became King Charles and his old title of the Prince of Wales went to William. I guess that means that William’s children can go by Cambridge or Wales.

[Anonymous]

Their titles change based on where they are in line to the throne (in case of William) and they can be gifted a title upon marriage, normally by the reigning Monarch.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.

Oh I love this!

Lottie is so cute.

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Anonymous wrote:Archie and Lilibet were Mountbatten-Windsor which is the family name, but growing up Harry and William went by their title as last name, Wales. On the birth certificates of his kids Harry was Duke of Sussex as last name, not Mountbatten-Windsor. So now the kids will go by Sussex, the way William’s kids go by Cambridge now with his new title.

William’s kids now go by Wales after William became Prince of Wales.

No, he was Prince of Wales and became Duke of Cambridge upon his wedding. Same with Harry, first Prince of Wales and then Duke of Sussex.

William became Prince of Wales when the Queen died in 2022. He was given the title Duke of Cambridge after his wedding in 2012, and his children were enrolled in school with the last name Cambridge. Now that he has a “higher level” title than Duke of Cambridge, they will be George/Charlotte/Louis Wales, just like William and Harry were known as William Wales and Harry Wales in college and the military. I believe on the children’s birth certificates both William and Kate didn’t even use a last name.

To;dr, their “family name” is Mountbatten-Windsor (really, it’s just Windsor), but informally their last name is their title or their father’s.

No! He grew up Prince of Wales.

Charles was Prince of Wales until 2022.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My god the paperwork nightmare alone

So glad Meghan got out of there. the princesses that marry in are always in danger. Reminds me of the upcoming Netflix movie damsel. I hope Kate gets better. Seems like William is the type that would metaphorically throw her to the dragons just like his dad did.

It’s not like they are doing the paperwork now is it? “Ummm William, have you completed and mailed the form that changes our last name from Buckingham to Palace and back dear?”

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Anonymous wrote:Still confused. How does their name keep changing/evolving?

Because it doesn’t really matter for them.

+1 It's ever changing because it's not a big deal. It's probably easier for them to use their title as anyway. plus it's prettier lol

[Anonymous]

This Wikipedia article is very informative: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountbatten-Windsor

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Anonymous wrote:I saw an article a few weeks back saying Charlotte goes by “Lottie Wales” in school.

Oh I love this!

Lottie is so cute.

Aw, that is cute.