California schools

[Anonymous]

Isn’t OOS tuition at some UC schools in the 50k range OP?
I know someone from NY at UC Irvine, loves it, I think tuition is around 48k

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For that price, you could attend on of the better community colleges, e.g. Pasadena City, Glendale, Santa Monica, etc. OOS tuition is around 10k, plus living expenses.

Note: if you were a California resident, tuition is like 1k. [/quote]

Would it not be weird to do community college from out of state? Is it not mostly local kids?[/quote] Santa Barbara city college, Pasadena city college, and Santa Monica city colleges would all be nice. Look into what specific options each one has. They typically have relationships with the UC near them, easy to transfer into if you meet the requirements at the Cc. I think it would be a nice experience if they have another way of meeting people, like through friends in the area. [/quote]

I don't know what current policy is, but I went to Cal Poly SLO and there were a good number of students who moved to SLO and lived in privately-run student apartment complexes and went to Cuesta Community College because it had preference for transfer admission to Cal Poly.

The Cal states are generally less expensive including for OOS. Cal Poly shows an OOS cost of $48k. But they are generally regional colleges and 99% in-state students so, IMO, should only really be considered if you definitely will stay in CA after college (excepting Cal Poly which is better known)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t OOS tuition at some UC schools in the 50k range OP?
I know someone from NY at UC Irvine, loves it, I think tuition is around 48k

That's just tuition. With room and board its OOS cost of attendance is $67k, not factoring in the cost of travel from the East coast.

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Anonymous wrote:For that price, you could attend on of the better community colleges, e.g. Pasadena City, Glendale, Santa Monica, etc. OOS tuition is around 10k, plus living expenses.

Note: if you were a California resident, tuition is like 1k.

Would it not be weird to do community college from out of state? Is it not mostly local kids?

Not only weird, there is a residency requirement - I am a Californianian

Since when do you have to be a resident of California to attend a California community college? Genuinely curious.

You don't, they have out of state rates.

[Anonymous]

Does your kid have enough AP credits to graduate in 3 years including if they load up on credits during the school year? I feel like this is your only option. Otherwise do community college and transfer? Honestly, It feels like a pipe dream OP based on your finances and I think you need to tell your kid what the reality is. They can do california for grad school.

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Anonymous wrote:Many CA schools are test blind, so the test optional isn’t an issue.

The $50k total cost for OOS is the harder nut.

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Huh? All UC, all Cal State, Caltech, USD, and others. That’s many.

Not test blind. Go and do your research before posting. I am a californian. And forget the community colleges, there is a residency requirement. And most of the Cal States also make it onerous for a californian to attend BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR CALIFORNIANS. As are the UC schools (now less than 10% OOS because the residents revolted against the UC regents)

Are you a complete idiot? All UC and Cal State schools are test blind. Caltech is also test blind.

No I actually know what I'm talking about. do you know anything about OOS admissions to the PUBLICs (Caltech is private)

My kid goes to UCLA from oos. Applied to 3 other UCs as well. No test scores requested or submitted. I’m not sure if the Californian disagrees with the “test blind” verbiage but I don’t know what else you’d call it.

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UCs just cut out a lot of OOS students. The article came out the other day in LA times. Good news for Californians. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-19/uc-enrolls-record-number-of-california-undergrads-in-fall-2023-cuts-out-of-state-students?fbclid=IwAR0ZNouxTKyl-6u_OPAWOavdyBq127YO1of-AGoFZv5oQ6UAr2Ea_WZH5KU_aem_ATt9a-PH3TXwAFhVsWlqmk9VunzWbr_HIfRZpI4inLDL7TpUknA_MRa8GwHcnowFgTA

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Anonymous wrote:Many CA schools are test blind, so the test optional isn’t an issue.

The $50k total cost for OOS is the harder nut.

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Huh? All UC, all Cal State, Caltech, USD, and others. That’s many.

Not test blind. Go and do your research before posting. I am a californian. And forget the community colleges, there is a residency requirement. And most of the Cal States also make it onerous for a californian to attend BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR CALIFORNIANS. As are the UC schools (now less than 10% OOS because the residents revolted against the UC regents)

Are you a complete idiot? All UC and Cal State schools are test blind. Caltech is also test blind.

No I actually know what I'm talking about. do you know anything about OOS admissions to the PUBLICs (Caltech is private)

My kid goes to UCLA from oos. Applied to 3 other UCs as well. No test scores requested or submitted. I’m not sure if the Californian disagrees with the “test blind” verbiage but I don’t know what else you’d call it.

Your DC is one of the few. Only 16 percent of UC students are OOS or International. And International will be a big component of that number. Plus the inflated prices for OOS students and foreigners and the impossibility of getting financial aid. The UCs and the Cal States really don't seem worth the trouble of applying to anymore. The very clearly don't want non-Californians.

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Cal states would fit this, but many have impacted majors, which means it is very difficult to graduate in 4 years and would bring the cost of a degree up over $200k.

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Anonymous wrote:Many CA schools are test blind, so the test optional isn’t an issue.

The $50k total cost for OOS is the harder nut.

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Huh? All UC, all Cal State, Caltech, USD, and others. That’s many.

Not test blind. Go and do your research before posting. I am a californian. And forget the community colleges, there is a residency requirement. And most of the Cal States also make it onerous for a californian to attend BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR CALIFORNIANS. As are the UC schools (now less than 10% OOS because the residents revolted against the UC regents)

Are you a complete idiot? All UC and Cal State schools are test blind. Caltech is also test blind.

No I actually know what I'm talking about. do you know anything about OOS admissions to the PUBLICs (Caltech is private)

My kid goes to UCLA from oos. Applied to 3 other UCs as well. No test scores requested or submitted. I’m not sure if the Californian disagrees with the “test blind” verbiage but I don’t know what else you’d call it.

Your DC is one of the few. Only 16 percent of UC students are OOS or International. And International will be a big component of that number. Plus the inflated prices for OOS students and foreigners and the impossibility of getting financial aid. The UCs and the Cal States really don't seem worth the trouble of applying to anymore. The very clearly don't want non-Californians.

DC HS kids seem to do pretty well applying to UC schools. Since every school is OOS, UC isn’t too outrageous compare to UVA or Michigan OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:For that price, you could attend on of the better community colleges, e.g. Pasadena City, Glendale, Santa Monica, etc. OOS tuition is around 10k, plus living expenses.

Note: if you were a California resident, tuition is like 1k.

Would it not be weird to do community college from out of state? Is it not mostly local kids?

It’s a bizarre suggestion, ignore.

Not a bizarre suggestion at all. Some California community colleges are really good and have guaranteed pathways to UCs. Community college tuition for out of state would be around 8k. Then I believe UC tuition would still be out of state but you would have saved on the first 2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t an 18 year old move and establish residency to attend a CA junior college and transfer from there to a state university?

Please go google it and not bother us. It's all there. California schools (all three levels) are for Californians. OOS have to work their way in

No, you don’t have to “work your way in” - you just have to pay more. Residency however cannot be established just through attending school in California.

[Anonymous]

Cal State Poly Pomona and Cal State Long Beach are both under 40k for out of state. Cal State universities in general are less expensive.

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I just peeked at CDS. Looks like Chapman gives merit, average of 20k, which might not be enough for OP, and (if I’m reading/calculating correctly) 25% of those who do not get need-based aid get merit. Whittier, an LAC, gives merit aid to almost everyone who doesn’t get need-based aid. Average merit aid = 28k. Whittier also seems to have a lower sticker price.

(I’m not a Whittier booster — have no connection to the place — but I know they give a lot of merit, so I’m using as an example to show range of options).

So, OP, privates might well be affordable but you’ll need to do some digging to find out how affordable. Definitely look at the common data sets — they’ll tell you how much merit is given, on average, and to how many. It’s under financial aid section.

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One thing to pay attention to with California schools is housing. My kid really liked Cal Poly Humboldt for environmental sciences, but they didn’t have nearly enough housing, students were being bussed in from hotels.