Why no backups in middle school

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

Become a teacher and you will find out. Until then, be quiet and let us do our job. The rule won't change so teach your child how to maneuver this, otherwise let him figure it out. You can go find something else to complain about and make our job worse I'm sure.

If you can't articulate what changes between middle and high school to remove the security concern, then either the concern isn't removed or the concern never existed. It's up to you to justify a policy that restricts students. If no justification can be articulated, eventually, this kind of thing will get overturned.

LOL ok. That's a great laugh! Thank you! To think a lowly single teacher has power to institute a school-wide policy! LOL

[Anonymous]

Are you the same one who posted about removing ice cream for all too? You all are too much. If you don't like the rules, you have free agency to leave and find a school that best fits your DC's needs.

[Anonymous]

Maybe an accordion file would work better for your child than a binder, then you don't have to worry about the hole punch issue. You still need to clean it out daily or weekly.

https://www.amazon.com/13-Pocket-Expanding-Handle-Shoulder-EFF-30-PUR/dp/B007SQZGMG?th=1

Give up on a rule change, not going to happen. If your child can't handle that, you'll need to look at private school.

[Anonymous]

OP, I could have written this. My daughter literally uses the same words — “my binder exploded twice today and now I can’t find my ____ assignment.” She has ADHD and this stresses her out so much. We are now on our fourth giant binder with strap. This policy makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you the same one who posted about removing ice cream for all too? You all are too much. If you don't like the rules, you have free agency to leave and find a school that best fits your DC's needs.

No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I could have written this. My daughter literally uses the same words — “my binder exploded twice today and now I can’t find my ____ assignment.” She has ADHD and this stresses her out so much. We are now on our fourth giant binder with strap. This policy makes no sense.

OP again here. I also hear him talk of other kids’ binders exploding

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I could have written this. My daughter literally uses the same words — “my binder exploded twice today and now I can’t find my ____ assignment.” She has ADHD and this stresses her out so much. We are now on our fourth giant binder with strap. This policy makes no sense.

OP again here. I also hear him talk of other kids’ binders exploding

It’s called teach them to clean it out. Jesus Christ, learn to raise your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I could have written this. My daughter literally uses the same words — “my binder exploded twice today and now I can’t find my ____ assignment.” She has ADHD and this stresses her out so much. We are now on our fourth giant binder with strap. This policy makes no sense.

OP again here. I also hear him talk of other kids’ binders exploding

It’s called teach them to clean it out. Jesus Christ, learn to raise your kids.

He actually references the old assignments during lessons at school. Don’t be a turd

[Anonymous]

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It’s called teach them to clean it out. Jesus Christ, learn to raise your kids.

You're a fine one to talk

[Anonymous]

He actually references the old assignments during lessons at school. Don’t be a turd

Then he should take a photo of the papers he needs to reference and upload them to Google Drive. Find solutions and stop the name calling.

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

Become a teacher and you will find out. Until then, be quiet and let us do our job. The rule won't change so teach your child how to maneuver this, otherwise let him figure it out. You can go find something else to complain about and make our job worse I'm sure.

Exactly! Kids sneak enough stuff in their binders, Chromebook cases and pockets. We don’t need the additional distraction of backpacks. I have 40 kids in most of my classes and no place for back packs. Most MS kids have a before lunch binder and an after lunch binder. It’s works out fine.

FWIW, my own child attends a a private MS with less than 30 kids in the entire grade and they still don’t allow backpacks in class or the halls in MS or HS.

[Anonymous]

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It’s called teach them to clean it out. Jesus Christ, learn to raise your kids.

You're a fine one to talk

I’m not the one whining on a message board about “exploding” binders. Parents take zero responsibility for actually teaching their kids the tiniest of life skills and instead blame everyone else. Time to take some accountability and responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

Become a teacher and you will find out. Until then, be quiet and let us do our job. The rule won't change so teach your child how to maneuver this, otherwise let him figure it out. You can go find something else to complain about and make our job worse I'm sure.

Exactly! Kids sneak enough stuff in their binders, Chromebook cases and pockets. We don’t need the additional distraction of backpacks. I have 40 kids in most of my classes and no place for back packs. Most MS kids have a before lunch binder and an after lunch binder. It’s works out fine.

FWIW, my own child attends a a private MS with less than 30 kids in the entire grade and they still don’t allow backpacks in class or the halls in MS or HS.

Two binders doesn’t work. You’d still need them both to have shoulder straps because of the other stuff they carry. It’s unreasonable to say they cannot have a backpack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It’s called teach them to clean it out. Jesus Christ, learn to raise your kids.

You're a fine one to talk

I’m not the one whining on a message board about “exploding” binders. Parents take zero responsibility for actually teaching their kids the tiniest of life skills and instead blame everyone else. Time to take some accountability and responsibility.

Actually, I'm taking issue with your use of profanity and aggressiveness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

Oh, PLEASE.