Why no backups in middle school

[Anonymous]

The issue with Hs is the availability of lockers and the ability to get across campus in time for class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are students permitted to visit their lockers between classes? This is what our school did back when I was in MS. We never had to haul so much stuff from class to class.

Have you tried Cardinal binders? They have a locking mechanism.

No. Students don’t go to their lockers except at the beginning of school, lunch, and end of school.

Cardinal binders don’t have a strap and so he wouldn’t be able to carry it without developing powers of telekinesis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are students permitted to visit their lockers between classes? This is what our school did back when I was in MS. We never had to haul so much stuff from class to class.

Have you tried Cardinal binders? They have a locking mechanism.

You can't go up and down two flights of stairs and across several corridors in between classes, just to get to your locker, PP. Assuming you even have one that year, because there aren't enough to go round.

Public schools are generally quite large.

[Anonymous]

My 7th grader rarely use the binder, I stopped giving him a bulky one. We don’t have instrument so maybe one 1” binder for the music sheet? Last year all his work is done on the chrome book, except FL. This year Algebra teacher likes to do paper worksheets, he just stash the completed work in the chrome book case. And recycle the paper when he gets home. So all he really carries in the building is the chromebook case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are students permitted to visit their lockers between classes? This is what our school did back when I was in MS. We never had to haul so much stuff from class to class.

Have you tried Cardinal binders? They have a locking mechanism.

They have 3 mins to get to their classroom on the other side of the building

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 7th grader rarely use the binder, I stopped giving him a bulky one. We don’t have instrument so maybe one 1” binder for the music sheet? Last year all his work is done on the chrome book, except FL. This year Algebra teacher likes to do paper worksheets, he just stash the completed work in the chrome book case. And recycle the paper when he gets home. So all he really carries in the building is the chromebook case.

Doesn’t work for us. DS has papers from every class often. He gets lots of paper worksheets in a few classes. The Chromebook case wouldn’t work for holding daily papers, as he would also have to then organize them before returning the Chromebook at the end of the day. He keeps organized by filing the papers as he gets them.

[Anonymous]

Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are students permitted to visit their lockers between classes? This is what our school did back when I was in MS. We never had to haul so much stuff from class to class.

Have you tried Cardinal binders? They have a locking mechanism.

No. Not the OP, but our MS also band backpacks. The kids can’t go to lockers in between classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

Become a teacher and you will find out. Until then, be quiet and let us do our job. The rule won't change so teach your child how to maneuver this, otherwise let him figure it out. You can go find something else to complain about and make our job worse I'm sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Then the binder has to be cleaned out daily: that's all there is to it. Get a duplicate filing system going at home and move things from the school binder to the home one every afternoon. End of story.

Also a water bottle carrier with a shoulder strap if the water is on the 504. Or two birds with one stone: DC gets a water break (fountain) at the start of (say) every other class period and stops at the locker on the way to or from.

The rules are inconvenient if your system bumps up against them, I know, but given that the rules aren't changing either DC needs a backpack accommodation or your system needs to change.

We are trying our best. He already has unlimited bathroom breaks in his 504, but it actually negatively affects his learning time. He has accommodations for head coverings as well. This many accommodations eventually causes a ton of negative attention from other students. The main problem is that there is no basis for banning backpacks; this rule causes undue harm to students for no benefit.

100% there is a basis for not having backpacks in a school. It is primarily a safety concern. It will not change. Since your child has a 504 it sounds like it’s time for a meeting with the school counselor to brainstorm/develop a plan for his materials and also to help figure out his other accommodations so much that it does not negatively affect him.

That’s idiocy. If they band backpacks in middle school, but the high school that all the kids go to does not stand backpacks, there is absolutely no basis in security. They are morons.

I'm the PP, thank you for calling us morons. I am a teacher. I do not want backpacks from middle schoolers in my room. It is a safety concern. If you don't like it, tough.

What changes between middle and high school to make it no longer a safety concern?

Become a teacher and you will find out. Until then, be quiet and let us do our job. The rule won't change so teach your child how to maneuver this, otherwise let him figure it out. You can go find something else to complain about and make our job worse I'm sure.

If you can't articulate what changes between middle and high school to remove the security concern, then either the concern isn't removed or the concern never existed. It's up to you to justify a policy that restricts students. If no justification can be articulated, eventually, this kind of thing will get overturned.