Defund the Police versus Abortion Bans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well maybe you should have thought of this OP back in 2020 when people were getting fired for even daring to suggest law enforcement has a legitimate purpose?

Right. Some ignorant jerk gets fired and blames his inadequacies on misinterpreted political jargon.

Did you miss all of 2020 where “defund the police” actually was a policy and people were unable to object to it in public?

[Anonymous]

I want police.
I want them to stop murdering black people.
I want reproductive freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well maybe you should have thought of this OP back in 2020 when people were getting fired for even daring to suggest law enforcement has a legitimate purpose?

Right. Some ignorant jerk gets fired and blames his inadequacies on misinterpreted political jargon.

Did you miss all of 2020 where “defund the police” actually was a policy and people were unable to object to it in public?

The government was jailing people for objecting to defend the police? Where did this happen? And where were police departments ACTUALLY defended?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m pro-choice, but crime impacts my daily life greater than abortion restrictions. I can’t say this campaign strategy isn’t the right call.

Seriously. People in NOVA can just drive to DC/Maryland if abortion is banned. We’re not talking about a state like Texas.

No. My rights shouldn’t be infringed upon in my own state - or anywhere really.

And the women from further south will have travel even farther if VA falls to the religious conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to a numbers game and good or bad the election will come down to how well Americans understand math.

Violent crimes happen more than abortions either about 33% more violent crimes than abortions occurring every year in the United States.

If you look at overall crimes, there are 17 crimes committed for every abortion in the United States every year.

Defund the police and the occurrence of violent and non violent crimes continues to rise. Implement reasonable abortion restrictions and abortions continue to occur although the numbers will most likely decrease.

So for those that make data driven decisions it is an easy one to make.

^ My thoughts exactly! And most abortions (> 95 % ) are preventable just use protection, iud, pills, vasectomy, etc but crime is not. Sometimes you are at the wrong place at the wrong time. My vote is for crime prevention and pregnancy prevention (get an IUD ladies or vasectomy brothers)

Implicit in your assumptions is that there is just as close of a connection between “defunding the police“ and more crime as there is between abortion restrictions and fewer abortions. Also, you are assuming that fewer legal abortions mean fewer overall abortions when it could just as easily mean, fewer legal abortions but more illegal ones.

In other words, in both instances you are assuming a linearity that either doesn’t exist or that you haven’t proven.

It is absolutely direct with defund the police. You can’t really still be blind to that.

If you demoralize the police and fully de incentivize fighting crime, there will be more crime. Period.

Show your work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well maybe you should have thought of this OP back in 2020 when people were getting fired for even daring to suggest law enforcement has a legitimate purpose?

Right. Some ignorant jerk gets fired and blames his inadequacies on misinterpreted political jargon.

Did you miss all of 2020 where “defund the police” actually was a policy and people were unable to object to it in public?

The government was jailing people for objecting to defend the police? Where did this happen? And where were police departments ACTUALLY defended?

So I guess you did miss all of 2020 in DC, lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want police.
I want them to stop murdering black people.
I want reproductive freedom.

Democrats don’t want police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to a numbers game and good or bad the election will come down to how well Americans understand math.

Violent crimes happen more than abortions either about 33% more violent crimes than abortions occurring every year in the United States.

If you look at overall crimes, there are 17 crimes committed for every abortion in the United States every year.

Defund the police and the occurrence of violent and non violent crimes continues to rise. Implement reasonable abortion restrictions and abortions continue to occur although the numbers will most likely decrease.

So for those that make data driven decisions it is an easy one to make.

^ My thoughts exactly! And most abortions (> 95 % ) are preventable just use protection, iud, pills, vasectomy, etc but crime is not. Sometimes you are at the wrong place at the wrong time. My vote is for crime prevention and pregnancy prevention (get an IUD ladies or vasectomy brothers)

No. You don’t get to decide what I do with my body. Period.

- except vaccines. Then, I have to do whatever you say.

Yep. Then that whole “my body my choice” crap goes right out the window.

At no point was it ILLEGAL for you to not get vaccinated. Dumb comparison.

Exactly. What an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well maybe you should have thought of this OP back in 2020 when people were getting fired for even daring to suggest law enforcement has a legitimate purpose?

Right. Some ignorant jerk gets fired and blames his inadequacies on misinterpreted political jargon.

Did you miss all of 2020 where “defund the police” actually was a policy and people were unable to object to it in public?

The government was jailing people for objecting to defend the police? Where did this happen? And where were police departments ACTUALLY defended?

So I guess you did miss all of 2020 in DC, lol

DC police budget was not cut. No one was jailed for objecting to DTP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to a numbers game and good or bad the election will come down to how well Americans understand math.

Violent crimes happen more than abortions either about 33% more violent crimes than abortions occurring every year in the United States.

If you look at overall crimes, there are 17 crimes committed for every abortion in the United States every year.

Defund the police and the occurrence of violent and non violent crimes continues to rise. Implement reasonable abortion restrictions and abortions continue to occur although the numbers will most likely decrease.

So for those that make data driven decisions it is an easy one to make.

^ My thoughts exactly! And most abortions (> 95 % ) are preventable just use protection, iud, pills, vasectomy, etc but crime is not. Sometimes you are at the wrong place at the wrong time. My vote is for crime prevention and pregnancy prevention (get an IUD ladies or vasectomy brothers)

Implicit in your assumptions is that there is just as close of a connection between “defunding the police“ and more crime as there is between abortion restrictions and fewer abortions. Also, you are assuming that fewer legal abortions mean fewer overall abortions when it could just as easily mean, fewer legal abortions but more illegal ones.

In other words, in both instances you are assuming a linearity that either doesn’t exist or that you haven’t proven.

It is absolutely direct with defund the police. You can’t really still be blind to that.

If you demoralize the police and fully de incentivize fighting crime, there will be more crime. Period.

Show your work.

DP.

Hi PP. YOU have to show your work first. Complete cites. Attributions. Full bibliography.

Then, maybe we will respond to your ridiculous demand in every thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want police.
I want them to stop murdering black people.
I want reproductive freedom.

Democrats don’t want police.

If you were fired it’s because you’re a fvking idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to a numbers game and good or bad the election will come down to how well Americans understand math.

Violent crimes happen more than abortions either about 33% more violent crimes than abortions occurring every year in the United States.

If you look at overall crimes, there are 17 crimes committed for every abortion in the United States every year.

Defund the police and the occurrence of violent and non violent crimes continues to rise. Implement reasonable abortion restrictions and abortions continue to occur although the numbers will most likely decrease.

So for those that make data driven decisions it is an easy one to make.

^ My thoughts exactly! And most abortions (> 95 % ) are preventable just use protection, iud, pills, vasectomy, etc but crime is not. Sometimes you are at the wrong place at the wrong time. My vote is for crime prevention and pregnancy prevention (get an IUD ladies or vasectomy brothers)

Implicit in your assumptions is that there is just as close of a connection between “defunding the police“ and more crime as there is between abortion restrictions and fewer abortions. Also, you are assuming that fewer legal abortions mean fewer overall abortions when it could just as easily mean, fewer legal abortions but more illegal ones.

In other words, in both instances you are assuming a linearity that either doesn’t exist or that you haven’t proven.

It is absolutely direct with defund the police. You can’t really still be blind to that.

If you demoralize the police and fully de incentivize fighting crime, there will be more crime. Period.

Show your work.

DP.

Hi PP. YOU have to show your work first. Complete cites. Attributions. Full bibliography.

Then, maybe we will respond to your ridiculous demand in every thread.

DP. That was PP’s polite way of saying that you’re full of crap. We all know it. PP was just being nice about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to a numbers game and good or bad the election will come down to how well Americans understand math.

Violent crimes happen more than abortions either about 33% more violent crimes than abortions occurring every year in the United States.

If you look at overall crimes, there are 17 crimes committed for every abortion in the United States every year.

Defund the police and the occurrence of violent and non violent crimes continues to rise. Implement reasonable abortion restrictions and abortions continue to occur although the numbers will most likely decrease.

So for those that make data driven decisions it is an easy one to make.

^ My thoughts exactly! And most abortions (> 95 % ) are preventable just use protection, iud, pills, vasectomy, etc but crime is not. Sometimes you are at the wrong place at the wrong time. My vote is for crime prevention and pregnancy prevention (get an IUD ladies or vasectomy brothers)

Implicit in your assumptions is that there is just as close of a connection between “defunding the police“ and more crime as there is between abortion restrictions and fewer abortions. Also, you are assuming that fewer legal abortions mean fewer overall abortions when it could just as easily mean, fewer legal abortions but more illegal ones.

In other words, in both instances you are assuming a linearity that either doesn’t exist or that you haven’t proven.

It is absolutely direct with defund the police. You can’t really still be blind to that.

If you demoralize the police and fully de incentivize fighting crime, there will be more crime. Period.

Show your work.

DP.

Hi PP. YOU have to show your work first. Complete cites. Attributions. Full bibliography.

Then, maybe we will respond to your ridiculous demand in every thread.

In other words, you can’t. You are the one asserting that there is a direct link between “defund the police“ initiatives, and an increase in violent crime. That is your statement not mine. Show us some proof, other than your words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well maybe you should have thought of this OP back in 2020 when people were getting fired for even daring to suggest law enforcement has a legitimate purpose?

Right. Some ignorant jerk gets fired and blames his inadequacies on misinterpreted political jargon.

Did you miss all of 2020 where “defund the police” actually was a policy and people were unable to object to it in public?

The government was jailing people for objecting to defend the police? Where did this happen? And where were police departments ACTUALLY defended?

So I guess you did miss all of 2020 in DC, lol

DC police budget was not cut. No one was jailed for objecting to DTP.

And DTP wasn’t: “law enforcement does not have a legitimate purpose”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Literally, every single ad I see on the TV relating to the upcoming Virginia state elections is pitting Republican “defund the police“ versus Democrat “abortion ban.” Are people still failing for the “defund the police” nonsense?

One ad that I keep seeing over and over again has the claim that, and this is a QUOTE, “violent criminals, murderers and rapists are roaming the streets” in Prince William County thanks to the cronies of the Democratic candidate.

People really fall for this bullshit?

Gullible people seem to fall for the “_______ wants a TOTAL ban on abortion” nonsense. So it clearly preys upon the idiocy of both sides.

There are Republican candidates who have clearly said they support a 100% ban.

And the Republican governor has said he will sign any bill.

They want it and will do it if they can.