What's happening in FL colleges is kind of scary

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.


I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.


No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

My conservative mother has been miserable all her married life. She should've divorced a long time ago. She only stayed because of her culture, and her generation did not believe in divorce.

Married women are not necessarily happier. They just are more resigned to their fate. That's how my mother saw it, and that's what she believed for her daughters. Very said to see them live this way.

I married a great man, but I would've stayed single had I not found someone who makes my life better.

-OP
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.


I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.


No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.

? is that like being "somewhat pregnant"?

FL is proposing that the woman show "proof" that she was raped in order for her to get an abortion. That is victimizing the victim all over again.

I hope your DD never experiences this. How awful. Oh, she'll probably seek refugee in a blue state where they won't ask her intrusive questions about whether she was raped or not.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.
Anonymous
DeSantis has said he wants New College to model itself after Hillsdale College, a private Christian institution in Michigan.


Wth happened to separation of church and state.

" Florida .. “the state where learning goes to die.”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.


I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.


No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.

? is that like being "somewhat pregnant"?

FL is proposing that the woman show "proof" that she was raped in order for her to get an abortion. That is victimizing the victim all over again.

I hope your DD never experiences this. How awful. Oh, she'll probably seek refugee in a blue state where they won't ask her intrusive questions about whether she was raped or not.


Pregnancy is a biological condition. Perspectives are not biological facts. They are subject to any number of nuances or minute differences. So no, being pro-choice with caveats isn't like being "somewhat pregnant."

See, this is why I want my kid to go to a school in a red state. I want her to learn how to think, and understand that views don't need to conform to partisan lines.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.


Call me whatever you want. You people are do tiresome.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.


I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.


No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.


Absolutely no one is ok with an elective abortion past viability. No one,

But...that isn't my business or your business. If there is a medical issue, it isn't up to the pregnant woman to get permission from the government to terminate, it is between her and her doctor. Period. Find me a doctor who would perform an elective late term abortion where there was no issue with the baby or the mother. I'll wait here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.


We don't have a baby shortage. Well I suppose if you are only considering white babies. Is THAT what you are trying to say?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.


I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.


No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.

? is that like being "somewhat pregnant"?

FL is proposing that the woman show "proof" that she was raped in order for her to get an abortion. That is victimizing the victim all over again.

I hope your DD never experiences this. How awful. Oh, she'll probably seek refugee in a blue state where they won't ask her intrusive questions about whether she was raped or not.


Pregnancy is a biological condition. Perspectives are not biological facts. They are subject to any number of nuances or minute differences. So no, being pro-choice with caveats isn't like being "somewhat pregnant."

See, this is why I want my kid to go to a school in a red state. I want her to learn how to think, and understand that views don't need to conform to partisan lines.



LOL, have you seen the trump cultists with the flags on their boats and pick-up trucks? Seriously!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.


We don't have a baby shortage. Well I suppose if you are only considering white babies. Is THAT what you are trying to say?


Birth rate statistics don't break it out by race. We have one birth rate. And it is too small for us to be able to fund the government the way we like to. We need to be able to fund our defense, take care of our vulnerable, etc, and that only works when we have enough working age people alive to fund it.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.


As someone who lives in the south (North Carolina) and whose child goes to college in Florida, my children cannot wait to leave. The laws are moving backwards here. There is nothing stable about their educational and cultural environment.

My soon-to-be Florida graduate is only looking for jobs up North and my second child is in college up north and her roommate (also from the south) couldn't wait to leave the south either.

Much of the growth in the south over the last 20 years was due to low cost of entry. That will change soon. Look at the cost of living in the Raleigh, Charlotte, Nashville, Florida, etc. People are starting to flee.


That's what makes this country so great. Choices... You and your kids choose one way, pp and her kids choose a different way.
You find a school that values what you value and provides the education you believe is essential.


very good point! and what if your child doesn't value what is going on in those states? you still willing to push them there? Just about any half decent public or private university is going to have connections (to some extent). I have people in my extended family, as well as friends that went to colleges in the regions that supposedly have more connections and opportunities than others. some struggled to get jobs and some did not struggle. the ones that did not struggle had one thing in common--they hustled for their opportunities. They were involved in campus/community organizations and started getting connected to alumni in their freshman year (not junior year) etc. My point is--regardless of where students go to school we should be encouraging them to hustle and have a career-oriented mindset from day #1. If that happens they will succeed anywhere.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.


On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?


Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.


It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.


Call me whatever you want. You people are do tiresome.

the people who are tiresome are those who force women to give birth. Arcane.
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