What's happening in FL colleges is kind of scary

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Well stated. And, bonus points for the citations.
But, your well reasoned and well expressed post will not stop people here from calling you "forced birther" or even imply you are racist. It has already happened. It is who they are.
I agree with everything you said. I have two kids. One lives in FL and loves it. And, we love visiting the family when we can.
Isn't it crazy that most any discussion on this board somehow always turns into a discussion about abortion? It is like an obsession with people here. And, the ironic thing is the most - if not all of them - live in states or in DC where there are no limits on abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.

It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.

Call me whatever you want. You people are do tiresome.

the people who are tiresome are those who force women to give birth. Arcane.

The entire concept of "forced birth" paints women as total bystanders in their own pregnancy. In 99% of cases, they are pregnant by choice. They chose to have unprotected sex. Leaving out rape, medical issues, etc, all we have left is people who made bad choices. Where have we gotten, lately, by treating everyone as a hapless, moronic victim, whose victimhood entitles them to do anything to other people, up to and including killing them, because capitalism is supposedly evil? Does this seem like a sustainable culture to you?

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Well stated. And, bonus points for the citations.
But, your well reasoned and well expressed post will not stop people here from calling you "forced birther" or even imply you are racist. It has already happened. It is who they are.
I agree with everything you said. I have two kids. One lives in FL and loves it. And, we love visiting the family when we can.
Isn't it crazy that most any discussion on this board somehow always turns into a discussion about abortion? It is like an obsession with people here. And, the ironic thing is the most - if not all of them - live in states or in DC where there are no limits on abortion.

It's their only selling point. "We might have declining educational achievement, a hostile environment for business, increasing crime, and a spiraling homeless population of people who can't access addiction treatment, but you can abort at any time you please, because why would you bring someone into this God-forsaken state?"

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.

It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.

Call me whatever you want. You people are do tiresome.

the people who are tiresome are those who force women to give birth. Arcane.

The entire concept of "forced birth" paints women as total bystanders in their own pregnancy. In 99% of cases, they are pregnant by choice. They chose to have unprotected sex. Leaving out rape, medical issues, etc, all we have left is people who made bad choices. Where have we gotten, lately, by treating everyone as a hapless, moronic victim, whose victimhood entitles them to do anything to other people, up to and including killing them, because capitalism is supposedly evil? Does this seem like a sustainable culture to you?

Statistically speaking all you forced birthers had just as many abortions as pro choice women. I’d like to have seen your lives with your - let me get this straight, your you’re a hapless moronic victim - pregnancy and child.

We know you’re hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.

It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

We don't have a baby shortage. Well I suppose if you are only considering white babies. Is THAT what you are trying to say?

Birth rate statistics don't break it out by race. We have one birth rate. And it is too small for us to be able to fund the government the way we like to. We need to be able to fund our defense, take care of our vulnerable, etc, and that only works when we have enough working age people alive to fund it.

And then you complain about "open borders" when it is clear we need more people

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

Also if she gets raped and becomes pregnant you are totally ok with her having no access to abortion and her education and career plans derailing because you’ll become a grandparent. So trade off.

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Abortion is bad enough, but Florida is also killing majors in doesn't like and altering courses to erase the sins of history.

Because, hey, slavery teaches valuable job skills!

Ben Sasse, the DeSantis pick for UF president, hides from the students because he is so unpopular on camps. He is on the record to slash majors and raise in-state tuition. The NYTimes did a great piece on his slithery ways.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Well stated. And, bonus points for the citations.
But, your well reasoned and well expressed post will not stop people here from calling you "forced birther" or even imply you are racist. It has already happened. It is who they are.
I agree with everything you said. I have two kids. One lives in FL and loves it. And, we love visiting the family when we can.
Isn't it crazy that most any discussion on this board somehow always turns into a discussion about abortion? It is like an obsession with people here. And, the ironic thing is the most - if not all of them - live in states or in DC where there are no limits on abortion.

Sorry, not falling for the gaslighting here. The obsession came from the right, who weaponized abortion and right to life since the early 1980's to the point that billionaires fund right wing judges and the supreme court to overturn a decent compromise. Obsession indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Well stated. And, bonus points for the citations.
But, your well reasoned and well expressed post will not stop people here from calling you "forced birther" or even imply you are racist. It has already happened. It is who they are.
I agree with everything you said. I have two kids. One lives in FL and loves it. And, we love visiting the family when we can.
Isn't it crazy that most any discussion on this board somehow always turns into a discussion about abortion? It is like an obsession with people here. And, the ironic thing is the most - if not all of them - live in states or in DC where there are no limits on abortion.

The difference between conservatives and liberals is that liberals care about other people. So there are states that are greatly impinging on women and girls' rights to bodily autonomy, and that means we liberals in other states actually care about what happens to those girls and women. Unlike conservatives whose thinking is more along the lines of "I've got mine, too bad for you."

Prove me wrong!

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.

I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.

No. I don't. You can be somewhat pro-choice. It is not as binary as the left makes it (either you have to approve of all abortions all of the time, or you're completely pro-life). But moreover, abortion rights are not high on my list of concerns. When I think of the future, I want grandkids. I'm not like, really fixated on aborting them.

Absolutely no one is ok with an elective abortion past viability. No one,

But...that isn't my business or your business. If there is a medical issue, it isn't up to the pregnant woman to get permission from the government to terminate, it is between her and her doctor. Period. Find me a doctor who would perform an elective late term abortion where there was no issue with the baby or the mother. I'll wait here.

This is false. The left now advocates for total deregulation of abortion. That includes past viability. If that weren't the case, no one would balk at me saying that I don't believe in abortion past viability. However, this position now has me categorized in the pro-life camp.

If you didn't believe in abortion past viability, you would just say it. You wouldn't say "well it's medically impossible" (it's not). You would just say, I don't believe it's okay to abort perfectly healthy babies who are 32 weeks along. But you won't say it because you don't believe it.

There are very very few states that allow this, and only if there is a medical reason for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

omg.. you reference an opinion piece from an utlra right wing "news" source like Washington Examiner?

I'm from a conservative family and culture. I went to church most of my life. I don't necessarily think married women are happier. I am glad that women have choices.

Yes, women should be able to choose to abort under any circumstances because it's their bodies. If you are not going to help women take care of the children because those women cannot take care of the babies, then you have no say in whether she has her baby or not. Mind your own business. Government should stay out of people's health choices and personal lives, right?

You're just a forced birther and don't really care about babies.

It's incredibly important to you that babies are aborted. I don't agree. In fact, we have a baby shortage in this country, and it will harm us economically in the near future. So I tend to be more interested in policies that incentivize birth. You disagree. There are states for people like you, and states for people like me. Once upon a time, the left was tolerant of different perspectives-- back when I was a liberal.

It's incredibly important than women have choices.

I just knew you were a forced birther.

Call me whatever you want. You people are do tiresome.

the people who are tiresome are those who force women to give birth. Arcane.

The entire concept of "forced birth" paints women as total bystanders in their own pregnancy. In 99% of cases, they are pregnant by choice. They chose to have unprotected sex. Leaving out rape, medical issues, etc, all we have left is people who made bad choices. Where have we gotten, lately, by treating everyone as a hapless, moronic victim, whose victimhood entitles them to do anything to other people, up to and including killing them, because capitalism is supposedly evil? Does this seem like a sustainable culture to you?

Please cite your source on the percentages showing the reason for abortions.

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" Florida was “the state where learning goes to die.”

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Anonymous wrote:" Florida was “the state where learning goes to die.”

Dan Duprez, a former New College admissions officer, said he was troubled by the tactics used to grow the incoming class, noting that the grade-point averages and standardized test scores of new students were lower than those of past freshman classes. He recalled a colleague showing him an admissions essay that was a screenshot of cellphone notes, “riddled with incorrect spelling and grammar, saying, basically, ‘I just want to play ball.’”

“That person went on to be accepted,” Duprez said.

Florida is the state where dumb and dumber get accepted.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

Can you follow up in some years when climate change is going to be making the south NOT a great place to live?

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Well stated. And, bonus points for the citations.
But, your well reasoned and well expressed post will not stop people here from calling you "forced birther" or even imply you are racist. It has already happened. It is who they are.
I agree with everything you said. I have two kids. One lives in FL and loves it. And, we love visiting the family when we can.
Isn't it crazy that most any discussion on this board somehow always turns into a discussion about abortion? It is like an obsession with people here. And, the ironic thing is the most - if not all of them - live in states or in DC where there are no limits on abortion.

It's their only selling point. "We might have declining educational achievement, a hostile environment for business, increasing crime, and a spiraling homeless population of people who can't access addiction treatment, but you can abort at any time you please, because why would you bring someone into this God-forsaken state?"

I thought crime rates went down with abortion being legalized. And do tell-how die conservative states address poverty and addiction?