Do you think Donald Trump would abide by the 22nd amendment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

Nope. Only if it serves his interest to do so, or if he's actually physically incapable. America is lucky in one respect - Trump didn't get involved in politics until he was elderly. That's a lucky break.

FWIW Trump is 77 and his father lived to be 93.

[Anonymous]

No, Trump will try to run for office or stay in as long as he can to avoid his house of cards collapsing. He idolizes dictators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

Judging by his past, not only no but Hell No!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

Nope. Only if it serves his interest to do so, or if he's actually physically incapable. America is lucky in one respect - Trump didn't get involved in politics until he was elderly. That's a lucky break.

FWIW Trump is 77 and his father lived to be 93.

His father was normal weight. Nobody Trump’s waist size is getting anywhere near 93. He’ll be lucky to still be alive in 2028.

[Anonymous]

If Trump refuses to leave, then have a national tax payment strike. What to get rid of the IRS? Keep tax loopholes for the 0.1%. Fine, then the average person doesn't fund this crap show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

Nope. Only if it serves his interest to do so, or if he's actually physically incapable. America is lucky in one respect - Trump didn't get involved in politics until he was elderly. That's a lucky break.

FWIW Trump is 77 and his father lived to be 93.

My Dad lived to 84 and his parents lived to 87 and 99. Once you hit 80, there is a lot of luck involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Trump refuses to leave, then have a national tax payment strike. What to get rid of the IRS? Keep tax loopholes for the 0.1%. Fine, then the average person doesn't fund this crap show.

Most people are paid wages or a salary and automatically pay taxes every pay period.

Next idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand how he’s running again for 2024 since he already won twice. Isn’t he ineligible? Can someone help me out here?

While he claims he has won twice, he has only served 4 years as President. After his "second win", he was not inaugurated as President, so he still has 6 years left that he can serve before her reaches the term limit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

If he is elected in 2024 and inaugurated in January 2025, then in January 2029, whether or not he wants to vacate the office, his term will end and he will no longer have any powers of the presidency. The military the FBI and the Secret Service would all no longer have to follow his orders. And they can escort him off the premises. The only way he would be able to stay is if he was able to replace all those in those branches with loyalists who also were willing to commit a federal felony in supporting him. While I think there may be many (as January 6 showed us), I don't think there is a plurality of those who would support this treason. That's where it would end. He would not be able to hold the office without a siege of the White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The NYT and some other publications recently had articles talking about the executive power grab being planned right now by allies of Trump in preparation for another Trump term.
From the NYT:

"Donald J. Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands.

Mr. Trump and his associates have a broader goal: to alter the balance of power by increasing the president’s authority over every part of the federal government that now operates, by either law or tradition, with any measure of independence from political interference by the White House, according to a review of his campaign policy proposals and interviews with people close to him.

Mr. Trump intends to bring independent agencies — like the Federal Communications Commission, which makes and enforces rules for television and internet companies, and the Federal Trade Commission, which enforces various antitrust and other consumer protection rules against businesses — under direct presidential control.

He wants to revive the practice of “impounding” funds, refusing to spend money Congress has appropriated for programs a president doesn’t like — a tactic that lawmakers banned under President Richard Nixon.

He intends to strip employment protections from tens of thousands of career civil servants, making it easier to replace them if they are deemed obstacles to his agenda. And he plans to scour the intelligence agencies, the State Department and the defense bureaucracies to remove officials he has vilified as “the sick political class that hates our country.”

“The president’s plan should be to fundamentally reorient the federal government in a way that hasn’t been done since F.D.R.’s New Deal,” said John McEntee, a former White House personnel chief who began Mr. Trump’s systematic attempt to sweep out officials deemed to be disloyal in 2020 and who is now involved in mapping out the new approach.

“What we’re trying to do is identify the pockets of independence and seize them,” said Russell T. Vought, who ran the Office of Management and Budget in the Trump White House and now runs a policy organization, the Center for Renewing America."

Apparently, "Mr. Trump and his advisers are making no secret of their intentions — proclaiming them in rallies and on his campaign website, describing them in white papers and openly discussing them."

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/17/us/politics/trump-plans-2025.html#:~:text=Donald%20J.%20Trump%20and%20his,authority%20directly%20in%20his%20hands.

These two things should make conservative federal employees vote for Biden. That might at least keep Virginia blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

Nope. Only if it serves his interest to do so, or if he's actually physically incapable. America is lucky in one respect - Trump didn't get involved in politics until he was elderly. That's a lucky break.

FWIW Trump is 77 and his father lived to be 93.

Did his father consume a steady diet of hamburders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?

If he is elected in 2024 and inaugurated in January 2025, then in January 2029, whether or not he wants to vacate the office, his term will end and he will no longer have any powers of the presidency. The military the FBI and the Secret Service would all no longer have to follow his orders. And they can escort him off the premises. The only way he would be able to stay is if he was able to replace all those in those branches with loyalists who also were willing to commit a federal felony in supporting him. While I think there may be many (as January 6 showed us), I don't think there is a plurality of those who would support this treason. That's where it would end. He would not be able to hold the office without a siege of the White House.

Isn’t this what “Project 2025” is about?

[Anonymous]

Adolf Hitler was a democratically elected leader. He made no secret of his plans.

Read Project 2025 and be very afraid.
This horrible orange dictator plans to destroy the Federal government and American democracy if the American voters return him to office.

Don't take my word for it.
Read all about it. https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

[Anonymous]

Here's a few direct quotes from Project 2025:

"America’s
vast reserves of oil and natural gas are not an environmental problem; they are the
lifeblood of economic growth."

"the entire Project 2025 is a plan to unite the conservative
movement and the American people against elite rule and woke culture warriors."

"When it comes to ensuring that freedom can flourish, nothing is more import-
ant than deconstructing the centralized administrative state. Political appointees
who are answerable to the President and have decision-making authority in the
executive branch are key to this essential task. The next Administration must not
cede such authority to non-partisan “experts,” who pursue their own ends while
engaging in groupthink, insulated from American voters."

"The modern conservative President’s task is to limit, control, and direct the
executive branch on behalf of the American people. This challenge is created
and exacerbated by factors like Congress’s decades-long tendency to delegate its
lawmaking power to agency bureaucracies, the pervasive notion of expert “inde-
pendence” that protects so-called expert authorities from scrutiny, the presumed
inability to hold career civil servants accountable for their performance, and the
increasing reality that many agencies are not only too big and powerful, but also
increasingly weaponized against the public and a President who is elected by the
people and empowered by the Constitution to govern."

[Anonymous]

More from Project 2025:

"Presidential appointees not only are critical to implementing the policy agenda,
but also must serve to “watch the watchers” in the departments and agencies they
oversee. They must ensure accountability as well as provide a check on the inherent
nature of the administrative state to overreach its authority.
For example, they must rein in the Environmental Protection Agency, which
declared backyard streams navigable waterways that then fall under its author-
ity. They must rein in the Internal Revenue Service, including its 87,000 new
employees hired to pick through every detail of what Americans make and how
they spend their money. They must rein in agencies such as the Occupational
Safety and Health Administration, which the Biden Administration weapon-
ized to attempt to force COVID-19 vaccine mandates on 84 million Americans
through their workplaces.