Feminism is a scam- I want to be a trophy wife!

Anonymous
If you're talking about second-wave feminism, I agree. The idea that to fix things women just need to be able to join the workforce (and women who don't and are married are parasites who live off their husband) is just horrible for women.

of course when we add in the economic realities of the world, most women *have* to work for money, feminist ideals be damned, but the economic realities of the world don't dictate that men should do an equal amount of labor at home. So that also screws women over too.

I am a SAHM and the economic realities of the world aren't stacked in my favor either, since it's much, much harder for me to get a job that pays a decent amount after spending so much time out of the workforce, and now that so many women are in the workforce, judges don't want to award alimony anymore. I'm glad I don't have to burn the candle on both ends but it's not a perfect solution either.

Also, women who never get married are more likely to do well financially without killing themselves at home, which is great if they don't want to be married or have kids. But if they do, that's yet another imperfect solution.

The whole issue kinda sucks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What you want is to be an heiress. It’s better. Trophy wife is a job, a hard job, with limited security.


+1
Anonymous
I hear you. I work 45 hours a week and then another 30 just with kid activities, housework and grocery shopping.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Needing two incomes for the same lifestyle that one income could provide decades ago is a scam.


Get rid of one of your cars
No iPhones
No out of state college
Driving vacations - nothing international
Mostly eat at home
No cable
Much smaller home
No cleaners or yard people
I could go on…




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BS. That doesn’t put a dent into the real costs for most people. Size of house doesn’t matter, it’s location and schools which means shortchanging your kids in some real way. Cable?? iPhones?? You forgot avocado toast.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need a different area. This arra is very expensive


There no more cheap places anywhere.

The choices are expensive and meth wasteland.

Thank the new WFH era for that. Real estate equity locusts have consumed all the decent places. The SE is becoming unaffordable, and you believe it?
Anonymous
Your job is the problem. Not working in general.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hate working. I’m exhausted all the time and I don’t even have time to work out or even cry.

This is such a scam!!

How do you think your husband feels, dipshit?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Needing two incomes for the same lifestyle that one income could provide decades ago is a scam.


Get rid of one of your cars
No iPhones
No out of state college
Driving vacations - nothing international
Mostly eat at home
No cable
Much smaller home
No cleaners or yard people
I could go on…




I have 0 cars
I’m not going to be able to save for state college never mind out of state but my parents didn’t either
I have never taken my kids on a vacation that’s not visiting family (by driving)
We eat mostly at home
We don’t have cable
Two kids in a one-bedroom apartment
No cleaners (also no yard people although also no yard)

Somehow I don’t think my problem is the three 2-8 year old iPhones I pay for.


So, what is the problem? I invested some of the money I made over the years. Now I rarely work.
I knew early on that I wanted freedom from a boss because the jobs I had from age 20-35 were horrific. Not even the work, but the drunk boss, long and late hours.
I'm single, no alimony, 1 kid.
I do have finance degree and interest in anything personal finance. Maybe that helps.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need a different area. This arra is very expensive


There no more cheap places anywhere.

The choices are expensive and meth wasteland.

Thank the new WFH era for that. Real estate equity locusts have consumed all the decent places. The SE is becoming unaffordable, and you believe it?


And if you are white collar, good luck finding an opportunity in inexpensive cities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A trophy at 25 is not such a hot catch at 50


no problem, the marriage won't last that long anyway
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Needing two incomes for the same lifestyle that one income could provide decades ago is a scam.


Get rid of one of your cars
No iPhones
No out of state college
Driving vacations - nothing international
Mostly eat at home
No cable
Much smaller home
No cleaners or yard people
I could go on…




I have 0 cars
I’m not going to be able to save for state college never mind out of state but my parents didn’t either
I have never taken my kids on a vacation that’s not visiting family (by driving)
We eat mostly at home
We don’t have cable
Two kids in a one-bedroom apartment
No cleaners (also no yard people although also no yard)

Somehow I don’t think my problem is the three 2-8 year old iPhones I pay for.


So, what is the problem? I invested some of the money I made over the years. Now I rarely work.
I knew early on that I wanted freedom from a boss because the jobs I had from age 20-35 were horrific. Not even the work, but the drunk boss, long and late hours.
I'm single, no alimony, 1 kid.
I do have finance degree and interest in anything personal finance. Maybe that helps.


Maybe my problem is that I’m 34 and still in the working era of your life plan? But generally, the complaint was needing two incomes to cover what one income used to. My parents had one income, less than my current one, lived much as I do and were able to afford a better standard of living (1 car, international travel, owned a 3-bedroom house they liked, eventually able to pay for three kids’ college with help from scholarships). Honestly, I’m fine with my life and don’t regret my choices but I get annoyed when people try to claim that a consistent standard of living has been supported by a consistent income over the years. Money simply does not go as far these days and it’s not the fault of individual choices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you need a different area. This arra is very expensive


On average in America, wages have increased by 80% since the 1970s and the Consumer Price Index has increased by over 500% since the 1970s. Is there a place in America where wages have increased at the same rate the CPI has?


In 1970 the average nominal wage in the US was $3.30/hour. Today it's $33.00/hour. How is that an 80 percent increase? Real (that is inflation-adjusted) incomes in the US are around 50 percent higher than in 1970.

Your real income is twice as high as your grandparent's, and you complain twice as much as they did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Only a woman would complain that they have no time for self care.
Welcome to the NFL, Pepcid, energy drinks and binge drinking will get you through until your heart blows out an atrium.


Hah. I get jealous that my wife has always had time to work out during the day. First, when the kids were little, the gym had a day care. Then, when they went to school, she had a part-time job with flexible hours. I can only work out at the ass-end (or beginning) of the day. It's either 5:30 in the morning or 8:30 at night. So, mostly I just don't. Everything in between is work or family commitments.

There are a bunch of ways she envies me, so grass is greener and all of that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: If you're talking about second-wave feminism, I agree. The idea that to fix things women just need to be able to join the workforce (and women who don't and are married are parasites who live off their husband) is just horrible for women.

of course when we add in the economic realities of the world, most women *have* to work for money, feminist ideals be damned, but the economic realities of the world don't dictate that men should do an equal amount of labor at home. So that also screws women over too.

I am a SAHM and the economic realities of the world aren't stacked in my favor either, since it's much, much harder for me to get a job that pays a decent amount after spending so much time out of the workforce, and now that so many women are in the workforce, judges don't want to award alimony anymore. I'm glad I don't have to burn the candle on both ends but it's not a perfect solution either.

Also, women who never get married are more likely to do well financially without killing themselves at home, which is great if they don't want to be married or have kids. But if they do, that's yet another imperfect solution.

The whole issue kinda sucks.


Capitalism is rapacious and used feminism to take our labor to benefit the owner class. The past times where families could do well with one parent working for money and the other could care for home and children was an exception in history and not the rule.

Women have always worked and worked hard, just not in the public sphere. Modern conveniences freed up their time at home, so now we work in the public sphere too, while also still taking care of home and children, which is a part-time job in and of itself. The rich get richer, the middle-class gets poorer. And thus goes the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Needing two incomes for the same lifestyle that one income could provide decades ago is a scam.


Get rid of one of your cars
No iPhones
No out of state college
Driving vacations - nothing international
Mostly eat at home
No cable
Much smaller home
No cleaners or yard people
I could go on…




I have 0 cars
I’m not going to be able to save for state college never mind out of state but my parents didn’t either
I have never taken my kids on a vacation that’s not visiting family (by driving)
We eat mostly at home
We don’t have cable
Two kids in a one-bedroom apartment
No cleaners (also no yard people although also no yard)

Somehow I don’t think my problem is the three 2-8 year old iPhones I pay for.


So, what is the problem? I invested some of the money I made over the years. Now I rarely work.
I knew early on that I wanted freedom from a boss because the jobs I had from age 20-35 were horrific. Not even the work, but the drunk boss, long and late hours.
I'm single, no alimony, 1 kid.
I do have finance degree and interest in anything personal finance. Maybe that helps.


Maybe my problem is that I’m 34 and still in the working era of your life plan? But generally, the complaint was needing two incomes to cover what one income used to. My parents had one income, less than my current one, lived much as I do and were able to afford a better standard of living (1 car, international travel, owned a 3-bedroom house they liked, eventually able to pay for three kids’ college with help from scholarships). Honestly, I’m fine with my life and don’t regret my choices but I get annoyed when people try to claim that a consistent standard of living has been supported by a consistent income over the years. Money simply does not go as far these days and it’s not the fault of individual choices.


What does any of this have to do with feminism? Your problems seems to be the lack or wage growth and rising inequality.
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