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To follow up, MoCo has a disproportionately high number of high-achieving students when compared with the rest of the country. (Highly capable is harder to identify -- that is for yet another thread.) Because we compare ourselves to the highest-achieving districts, the term "standard", when used to describe on-grade-level Math can be misinterpreted.
As used, above, it essentially refers to just that - material that is considered standard for the grade. It's not the standard expectation for our students, families or even MCPS, though, as a large plurality, or even a majority, complete Algebra by 8th grade, and a significant minority complete it in 7th. Algebra is a high school course, though, and one that goes on a child's transcript, whenever it might be taken. A good number of MCPS students accomplish this in 9th, and some do need supporting courses, completing it in later grades or in conjunction with the supports. Whether this de facto national standard should change is, yet again, another mattter. |
I think you need to compare with counties next door, like fairfax and Howard. MCPS doesn’t have disproportionately high number of high-achieving students. Algebra is a middle school course for the rest of the world. US is far behind in math if most kids take algebra in high school. How can this country keep being competitive if the next generation is not good at math. |
We did get the letter that they didn't select him and one factor was our lack of request, so.... Also, DS was not a student in the system for a large portion of the time they screened, |
That lack-of-request (parent input, along with teacher input and, possibly, staff advocacy) was a factor for SIPPI/GT screening. That results in a GT designation, but is not directly related to magnet pool placement, which has not relied on any advocacy factor for a number of years. Unfortunately, the system doesn't do a great job of accounting for exceptions like thay of your DS (lack of data points through no fault of his own). |
I'm quite sure that comparison to high-achieving districts (and countries) is what I mentioned, though I said it in a fairly neutral tone, so it may not have registered. MCPS has a disproportionately high percentage of high-achieving students compared to the national average, and comparison to Fairfax/Howard/high-achieving countries is appropriate. The concepts are not mutually exclusive. It is as important to the conversation to recognize current national/state standards, to which MCPS must more or less adhere, as it is to advocate for advanced opportunities that meet children's needs to learn at a pace comparible with their capabilities and provide a foundation to compete/contribute/acheive among the best in the world. |
| Auto-correct -- s/b "compatible", not "comparable". |
Yes, we know. Other countries track their students and don't offer college prep curriculum to the entire population, so the biased selection of students are at a higher level. Most people don't go to college. Carpenters and nurses (college educated!) don't need calculus. US has near highest percentage of college graduates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tertiary_education_attainment |
Sure. It’s ok some kids don’t need calculus. But don’t try to close the achievement gap and drag down the standards for kids who need them. After all, we need engineers as well and we need more than other countries to stay competitive. |
All MCPS needs to do is create classes specifically for those that took Compacted math in ES. This can be accomplished by offer a bridge summer class that covers the first half of 7th grade content that is taught in AMP6+, OR create IM 1(All of 7th & first half 8th) and IM2/Alg1(key topics from 2nd half of 8th and all of Alg 1)OR Accelerated AMP7++(All of 7th and 8th) I personally like to ensure that the all kids have a strong foundation for taking Alg so don’t recommend skipping 7th. |
Agree about a formal, accessible bridge of material to AMP7+ for those coming from either Math 5/6 or Math 6 (or even, as in some cases, for those truly skipping over grades). Recreating IM/AIM (AMP7++ [sic]) from the new curriculum would be nice, but I'm not certain it will be feasible from the perspective of teacher training/class allocation. (This, with many other wants, probably requires budget that the County Council has, for decades, now, been loath to allocate.) While the concept of combination/compaction/in-year acceleration of Algebra (with Pre-Algebra or Geometry, or even with Stats or Algebra II) certainly is worth consideration, and while MCPS would be an excellent candidate district for associated pilots, that effort would need to be vetted vs. state requirements, which currently amount to a full credit (whole-school-year-duration) of Algebra (and Geometry) being taken, with very limited exception. |
AMP6+ and AIM in 6th tracked to talking Calculus in high school. They just don't need to go way beyond it |
Yes. All the kids at WPES will be in alg 1 in 6th. Except the few that get it in 5th. |
That’s a biggest rumor. Very few in WPES get algebra in 6th. Mostly in 7th |
They are all in outside enrichment and will take summer geometry to catch up, so they can take MV Calc in 11th. And AP Stats online in 9th. |
Damn you!, Poe's Law. |