What’s next to AMP 7?

Anonymous
I am pretty new to this area, and my kid is in high school now, so I am not familiar with middle school math track for mcps.

If someone in 7th grade says she’s taking accelerated math right now, is she going to take algebra 1 in 8th grade? Or just math 8? She says she is having very hard time in her class. 😱
Anonymous
Yes, algebra 1 in 8th. but if they're having a tough time, they might want to repeat AMP7 in 8th.
Anonymous
https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, algebra 1 in 8th. but if they're having a tough time, they might want to repeat AMP7 in 8th.


Math 8 seems a better fit than repeating AMP7 in 8th? (Age-matched peers, and spends more time on the Level-8 material)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, algebra 1 in 8th. but if they're having a tough time, they might want to repeat AMP7 in 8th.


Math 8 seems a better fit than repeating AMP7 in 8th? (Age-matched peers, and spends more time on the Level-8 material)


I don't know from personal experience, but yes, you're right, math 8 sounds better in that situation than repeating AMP7. i guess it depends on what material the student found difficult -- all of it, or mostly the level 8 material.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, algebra 1 in 8th. but if they're having a tough time, they might want to repeat AMP7 in 8th.


Math 8 seems a better fit than repeating AMP7 in 8th? (Age-matched peers, and spends more time on the Level-8 material)


It is one of the w-feeder schools, and I found out that they only offer amp6 and amp7, no regular math 6/7/8. 😱
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, algebra 1 in 8th. but if they're having a tough time, they might want to repeat AMP7 in 8th.


Math 8 seems a better fit than repeating AMP7 in 8th? (Age-matched peers, and spends more time on the Level-8 material)


It is one of the w-feeder schools, and I found out that they only offer amp6 and amp7, no regular math 6/7/8. 😱


The other side of the insanity. If the vast majority of parents push too much, it leads to there not being enough of a cohort for anyone needing on-level. Truth is, though, that AMP 7+ still covers all of Math 8, and the pace should be something that anyone repeating/re-covering the material should be able to handle.

If the system didn't hold the accelerated opportunities so jealously and keep the special programs so scarce, they might not see that kind of unnecessary push to the extent they do. Would be better for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?


AIM is one year and leads to Algebra in 7th, AMP is supposed to be two years, leading to Algebra in 8th.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?


AIM is one year and leads to Algebra in 7th, AMP is supposed to be two years, leading to Algebra in 8th.


But then many schools don’t have AIM and only AMP. Kids still go to algebra in 7th
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?


AIM is one year and leads to Algebra in 7th, AMP is supposed to be two years, leading to Algebra in 8th.


But then many schools don’t have AIM and only AMP. Kids still go to algebra in 7th


True. Schools that use AMP7+ in 6th in lieu of AIM for those continuing from Math 5/6 in 5th have to plan for the gap: the first half of 7th curriculum is lost, and though much of that is review of prior years with additional complexity, they need to be sure the foundational concepts, there, are understood. For any placed there from Math 5 (e.g., through middle school criteria-based magnet pool qualification), they'd need to have some plan for review of Math 6 concepts, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?


AIM is one year and leads to Algebra in 7th, AMP is supposed to be two years, leading to Algebra in 8th.


Is it true that kids at wealthy Potomac schools can take Algebra in 6th?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/math/middle

Math 6/7/8 is Prealgebra. It can be done in 1, 2, or 3 years in Middle School, depending on Elementary School preparation.

AMP+ was/is a 2-year program that starts in 6th grade, doing "Math. 6/7/8" in 2 years, leading to algebra 1in 8th.
It's possible that if a student excels in AMP+ in 6th, they could persuade school to jump to Algebra 1 in 7th.

It is less advanced than AIM / Investigations into Mathematics: 1-year Math 7/8 prealgebra done in 6th grade, mainly for students who did 2-year Compacted Math 4/5/6 in 4th and 5th grade. This leads to Algebra in 7th.

It is more accelerated than taking on-level Math 6/7/8 over 3 years, leading to Algebra 1 in 9th.

(Yes, some students do Algebra 1 in 6th. Please let's not have another thread rehashing that.)


I’m confused on the difference of AIM and AMP if both of them lead to algebra in 7th. Why two different types of courses?


AIM is one year and leads to Algebra in 7th, AMP is supposed to be two years, leading to Algebra in 8th.


But then many schools don’t have AIM and only AMP. Kids still go to algebra in 7th


What are the “many” schools that don’t offer AIM? All schools have gotten rid of IM but all are supposed to have AIM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

But then many schools don’t have AIM and only AMP. Kids still go to algebra in 7th


What are the “many” schools that don’t offer AIM? All schools have gotten rid of IM but all are supposed to have AIM.



Not sure but maybe Hoover MS doesn't have AIM anymore...just has AMP 7+ for 6th graders who did compacted in ES.
Anonymous
Your post doesn't make a lot of sense as generally MS only offers math for kids who failed or struggling and not summer school for accelleration. You can do summer school for acceleration in HS or entering HS.

The fast track for math starting in middle school is 7th grade for algebra. It was AIM (basically pre-algebra in 6th for those kids) but they keep changing the name so not sure the current name or math track. A rare few at select schools (not just the wealthier schools can start Algebra in 6th but that's a completely different area. Regular kids take Algebra in 8th, kids struggling a bit generally in 9th, and a rare few in 10th or later. If she's struggling with the math she probably should slow it down.
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