Mcps High School need to start later

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teens need more sleep and a later start time would help with that, but it would also disrupt the scheduling of other things, impact family life, and cost the school district money, so it’s not changing any time soon. The kids just have to get through it, the way generations before them did.

My high school started at 8:30. All of the schools started at the same time.

That's nice mee-maw, tell us more about life in rural Kentucky.

Kids were actually mature like adults by middle school & had actual life skills.

Life skills involves adapting to the circumstances you are in. I got up at 4:30 am for years because I had a long commute and young kids. I had the think and function all day.

[Anonymous]

MoCo needs to infill density, and run more city buses past high schools, to solve the transportation problem.

[Anonymous]

So glad nobody with any say listens to the cranks that post here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MoCo needs to infill density, and run more city buses past high schools, to solve the transportation problem.

This. If folks want earlier start times, the best place to start is a 10-year plan to improve walking paths, bike paths, and public transportation. Change the situation that led to the previous decision, and you'll maybe get a different outcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teens need more sleep and a later start time would help with that, but it would also disrupt the scheduling of other things, impact family life, and cost the school district money, so it’s not changing any time soon. The kids just have to get through it, the way generations before them did.

My high school started at 8:30. All of the schools started at the same time.

That's nice mee-maw, tell us more about life in rural Kentucky.

It was in the 1980s, in a small city. The difference, then, was that most of the kids in the city were able to get themselves to school by walking, biking, or public bus. Most of the kids who got a school bus to school were the rural/farm kids.

In any case, the point is that no, not all kids have been having to deal with too-early school start times for generations.

But they have been in MCPS, which is the school district we're talking about and the one the PP was referring when she mentioned sticking it out like previous generations.

No one cares what you did in a small city's school district in the 1980s. It's not relevant and comparable to MCPS in 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teens need more sleep and a later start time would help with that, but it would also disrupt the scheduling of other things, impact family life, and cost the school district money, so it’s not changing any time soon. The kids just have to get through it, the way generations before them did.

My high school started at 8:30. All of the schools started at the same time.

That's nice mee-maw, tell us more about life in rural Kentucky.

It was in the 1980s, in a small city. The difference, then, was that most of the kids in the city were able to get themselves to school by walking, biking, or public bus. Most of the kids who got a school bus to school were the rural/farm kids.

In any case, the point is that no, not all kids have been having to deal with too-early school start times for generations.

But they have been in MCPS, which is the school district we're talking about and the one the PP was referring when she mentioned sticking it out like previous generations.

No one cares what you did in a small city's school district in the 1980s. It's not relevant and comparable to MCPS in 2023.

-What would it take for MCPS to be able to start all schools at a reasonable time?
-How about, if most of the kids could get themselves to school by walking, biking, or public bus?
-Shut up, that's not relevant, nobody cares.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It needs to be done. Teens simply need more sleep. LA DC NY and more..all on same page here.
https://apnews.com/article/school-start-times-pandemic-be81b0f5cb2b68fad3ce0a22dfd8ac1f

It's easy! They can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, they can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, what if they just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

But they could just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

If you want high schools to start later, here's what you need to do: figure out how MCPS can get 160,000 students to school and back, every school day, without putting over 100,000 of them on a school bus. School start times in MCPS are a transportation issue.

No, it's not a transportation issue. It's a scheduling issue. They can rearrange start times, with HS last instead of first.

The arguments against that are: afterschool jobs, afterschool sports/clubs, and the significant number of HS-aged kids providing childcare for siblings.

None of that affects me. I just don't like having to get up early so my kid can go to school. The county should adjust to me.

No one is requiring you to get up. My HS kid typically leaves before I am awake. She grabs a protein bar and is out the door by 7 when I am getting up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before posting please read the extensive study McPS did on this about 5 years ago which resulted in pushing back start times by 20 minutes. I don’t think anything has changed since then.

This was in 2015. Here is the link for everyone who may not have been around then:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/belltimes/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be done. Teens simply need more sleep. LA DC NY and more..all on same page here.
https://apnews.com/article/school-start-times-pandemic-be81b0f5cb2b68fad3ce0a22dfd8ac1f

It's easy! They can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, they can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, what if they just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

But they could just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

If you want high schools to start later, here's what you need to do: figure out how MCPS can get 160,000 students to school and back, every school day, without putting over 100,000 of them on a school bus. School start times in MCPS are a transportation issue.

You mean the department busy embezzling millions of dollars? Poor things can’t run buses but very good at stealing.

[Anonymous]

The school that this article starts out by profiling is a very high-farms school. It’s got a ton of problems that later start times won’t fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teens need more sleep and a later start time would help with that, but it would also disrupt the scheduling of other things, impact family life, and cost the school district money, so it’s not changing any time soon. The kids just have to get through it, the way generations before them did.

My high school started at 8:30. All of the schools started at the same time.

That's nice mee-maw, tell us more about life in rural Kentucky.

Kids were actually mature like adults by middle school & had actual life skills.

Life skills involves adapting to the circumstances you are in. I got up at 4:30 am for years because I had a long commute and young kids. I had the think and function all day.

Sadly you never learned how to think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be done. Teens simply need more sleep. LA DC NY and more..all on same page here.
https://apnews.com/article/school-start-times-pandemic-be81b0f5cb2b68fad3ce0a22dfd8ac1f

It's easy! They can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, they can just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

Or, what if they just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

But they could just ... no, they considered that, and decided against it, for [reasons].

If you want high schools to start later, here's what you need to do: figure out how MCPS can get 160,000 students to school and back, every school day, without putting over 100,000 of them on a school bus. School start times in MCPS are a transportation issue.

No, it's not a transportation issue. It's a scheduling issue. They can rearrange start times, with HS last instead of first.

The arguments against that are: afterschool jobs, afterschool sports/clubs, and the significant number of HS-aged kids providing childcare for siblings.

None of that affects me. I just don't like having to get up early so my kid can go to school. The county should adjust to me.

No one is requiring you to get up. My HS kid typically leaves before I am awake. She grabs a protein bar and is out the door by 7 when I am getting up.

Aren't you lucky! I have to throw cold water on my kid each morning to get them up and out the door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before posting please read the extensive study McPS did on this about 5 years ago which resulted in pushing back start times by 20 minutes. I don’t think anything has changed since then.

This was in 2015. Here is the link for everyone who may not have been around then:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/belltimes/

As far as I'm concerned this matter was settled. People need to move on.

[Anonymous]

There’s also no reason elementary school students should be at school at 4:00 pm. MCPS is just so poorly run, they don’t care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s also no reason elementary school students should be at school at 4:00 pm. MCPS is just so poorly run, they don’t care.

It’s actually insane. PG students get out at 1:45. Most likely the MoCo parents complained bc they need free daycare while the rest of the country (and state) have had it figured out for decades.