Mcps High School need to start later

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

Kind of? There are 50 counties in the US with populations of at least one million, and Montgomery County is #45. According to Wikipedia, for what that's worth.

There are over 3000 counties in the US, so if MoCo ranks #45 in population, 98.5% of counties have a smaller population.

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Anonymous wrote:The county has already decided this issue. It's been settled for a while. Not sure why this poster has to resurrect it every couple of months. The best advice I can offer is simply moving your clock ahead two hours so your child goes to bed earlier.

I don’t know why the high school start time comes up as frequently on this board as it does, but no decision is permanent and binding for eternity.

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Anonymous wrote:The county has already decided this issue. It's been settled for a while. Not sure why this poster has to resurrect it every couple of months. The best advice I can offer is simply moving your clock ahead two hours so your child goes to bed earlier.

I don’t know why the high school start time comes up as frequently on this board as it does, but no decision is permanent and binding for eternity.

The same person just won't give it up. It starts these threads every couple months. They seem incapable of understanding that the universe doesn't revolve around them and their child.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

Yes, in Canada kids have Canadian Rhythms which work differently! School should start later there. It's science.

Good one! Hahaha

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

We should have all of these things even with the current schedule and it's shameful that we don't. The lives of HS students should be valued too. I also think that kids are more adaptable than we give them credit for, it's adults who struggle with change.

Half the kids in high school can drive themselves to school and the rest can walk or bike or take the bus.

Zero ES kids, spanning 6 grades, can drive themselves and half probably can not even walk or bike safely in daylight hours.

So your comment about caring about 15-18yr old safety over 5-10yrs old safety is ridiculous

Nobody should have a walk/bike to school that isn't safe. Not high school kids, not middle school kids, not elementary school kids. I don't think the "just flip HS and ES start times" people are pushing this idea on grounds of walking safety, though, because the idea that it's safer for ES kids than HS kids to walk in the dark is absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:The county has already decided this issue. It's been settled for a while. Not sure why this poster has to resurrect it every couple of months. The best advice I can offer is simply moving your clock ahead two hours so your child goes to bed earlier.

I don’t know why the high school start time comes up as frequently on this board as it does, but no decision is permanent and binding for eternity.

Sure, but on the other hand, what's the saying about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

We should have all of these things even with the current schedule and it's shameful that we don't. The lives of HS students should be valued too. I also think that kids are more adaptable than we give them credit for, it's adults who struggle with change.

Half the kids in high school can drive themselves to school and the rest can walk or bike or take the bus.

Zero ES kids, spanning 6 grades, can drive themselves and half probably can not even walk or bike safely in daylight hours.

So your comment about caring about 15-18yr old safety over 5-10yrs old safety is ridiculous

Nobody should have a walk/bike to school that isn't safe. Not high school kids, not middle school kids, not elementary school kids. I don't think the "just flip HS and ES start times" people are pushing this idea on grounds of walking safety, though, because the idea that it's safer for ES kids than HS kids to walk in the dark is absurd.

Yes, I'm also very concerned that opening schools later will require my kids to come home after dark which is much more dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

We should have all of these things even with the current schedule and it's shameful that we don't. The lives of HS students should be valued too. I also think that kids are more adaptable than we give them credit for, it's adults who struggle with change.

Half the kids in high school can drive themselves to school and the rest can walk or bike or take the bus.

Zero ES kids, spanning 6 grades, can drive themselves and half probably can not even walk or bike safely in daylight hours.

So your comment about caring about 15-18yr old safety over 5-10yrs old safety is ridiculous

Nobody should have a walk/bike to school that isn't safe. Not high school kids, not middle school kids, not elementary school kids. I don't think the "just flip HS and ES start times" people are pushing this idea on grounds of walking safety, though, because the idea that it's safer for ES kids than HS kids to walk in the dark is absurd.

Yes, I'm also very concerned that opening schools later will require my kids to come home after dark which is much more dangerous.

Why is afternoon dark more dangerous?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid in ES and MS also needs sleep. These people want to throw younger kids under the bus because it's more convenient for them makes no sense. The county already debated this and the matter is settled.

Seriously. It's draining and exhausting.

Also, they act like American kids are precious snowflakes who can't be challenged to do a simple thing like go to bed on time and wake up on time.

Meanwhile, their counterparts in places like Japan, France and the UK go to high school from 8:30 am to as LATE as 4, 5 or 6 pm. Meanwhile, our kids go to school from 7:45 am to 2:30 pm and they're acting like they're being waterboarded. Grow up.

And in Germany, they go to high school from 8 am to 12:30 pm or 1 pm. So what?

It's one thing to say: early school start times are a problem, but there's currently no way for MCPS to solve the problem without creating even more problems.

It's a whole different thing to say: early school start times are not a problem. There is a mountain of evidence that they are a problem.

My point in posting the other global start and end times is that OTHER COUNTRIES also demand their students wake up "early" and in some cases, those kids have even LONGER school days than we do. And guess what? They're thriving and making it work with that system.

AGAIN, look around globally. Most school times start around 8 am. MCPS currently starts at 7:45 am. We are within the RANGE of normal. So what the hell are we fighting about? 15 freaking minutes?

If we had a 6 or 7 am start time (which btw, we used to have as my first period used to be at 7:15 am in the 90s), ok. I could concede your point. But most high schools globally start around 8 am. We are not some anomaly.

My high school kids gets on the school bus at 7:00 am. Which means that one of them gets up at 6:50, and the other one gets up at 5:30. Either way, it's before 7:45 am.

You can drive them.

Not everyone is able to drive. Not everyone has a car. Not everyone is available to drive. And the last thing we need is more cars on the road. So no, "You can drive them" is not a solution.

Sounds like you can understand why many people also need to have older siblings watch the younger ones.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and yes, I do understand that. There are two issues here:

1. There's plenty of scientific evidence that teenagers, specifically, don't do well in the early mornings.
2. There is no feasible way for MCPS to adjust school start times to teenager biology as long as MCPS to transport over 100,000 students per day by school bus.

1, sure. 2, though, just requires flipping HS and ES start times.

"just"

yeah, "just". It's not a transportation issue. Lots of other stuff, but not transportation.

Yes it is.

More kids in ES

ES kids take the buses for field trips

Younger kids need more sleep. No 5yr old should be forced to get up at 5:30-6am. 5yr old need 11-12hrs of sleep. Is their bedtime now 6pm?

Younger kids can’t walk/bike to school in the dark during the winter

Younger kids rely on older siblings or teen babysitters for after school care.

School sports and late buses would be so much later and cost the district more money to pay bus drivers to work an extra 1-2 hours.

School coaches won’t want the job as they would be getting home so much later.

This whole, kids can't do anything in the dark is a bit funny to me, as I grew up in a major Canadian city where that was just part of life in the winter....

But we aren't in Canada. We are in one the most highly populated counties in the country. There are many locations with no sidewalks, crosswalks, or crossing guards - and there are many drivers that go way too fast. To think kids that have grown up going to school only in daylight hours can now safely walk in the night time is a little obtuse, no?

We should have all of these things even with the current schedule and it's shameful that we don't. The lives of HS students should be valued too. I also think that kids are more adaptable than we give them credit for, it's adults who struggle with change.

Half the kids in high school can drive themselves to school and the rest can walk or bike or take the bus.

Zero ES kids, spanning 6 grades, can drive themselves and half probably can not even walk or bike safely in daylight hours.

So your comment about caring about 15-18yr old safety over 5-10yrs old safety is ridiculous

Have you ever done car pick-up or drop-off at an MCPS high school? Maybe do that a few times, before deciding it would be a good idea to replace a small number of school buses with a large number of teenage drivers in cars.

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Anonymous wrote:The county has already decided this issue. It's been settled for a while. Not sure why this poster has to resurrect it every couple of months. The best advice I can offer is simply moving your clock ahead two hours so your child goes to bed earlier.

I don’t know why the high school start time comes up as frequently on this board as it does, but no decision is permanent and binding for eternity.

Agree. I’d bet money this is changed someday, whether or not it’s changed in time for my kids (my oldest is 5, lol)….