Why are parts of Herndon zoned to Oakton HS and will that change any time soon?

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Anonymous wrote:There are kids who live in Herndon at Westfield HS. Its ridiculous.

During the 2008 South Lakes boundary study, that neighborhood was rejected by both the South Lakes and the Herndon PTAs.

Fox Mill is in Oak Hill. None of use it but we are not Reston or Herndon. And we moved to SLHS in 2008.

TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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[Anonymous]

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TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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Who says Oak Hill instead of Fox Mill or even Floris in real life (IRL)? I don’t know anyone who does. I only hear Oak Hill on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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Who says Oak Hill instead of Fox Mill or even Floris in real life (IRL)? I don’t know anyone who does. I only hear Oak Hill on DCUM.

True. But, you likely also do not say "Herndon." Which OP seems to think applies to everyone in 20171,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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Who says Oak Hill instead of Fox Mill or even Floris in real life (IRL)? I don’t know anyone who does. I only hear Oak Hill on DCUM.

True. But, you likely also do not say "Herndon." Which OP seems to think applies to everyone in 20171,

It’s more like no man’s land between those two places and Herndon except maybe a stretch associated with Reston. Plenty of people living “between” Herndon and the Floris school area off Chantilly road do refer to that stretch as Herndon. The rest is generic Fairfax country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

TBH I only hear people on DCUM use Oak Hill. Multiple friends have/had kids in the Fox Mill school or nearby and that’s what everyone I know say IRL.

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Who says Oak Hill instead of Fox Mill or even Floris in real life (IRL)? I don’t know anyone who does. I only hear Oak Hill on DCUM.

True. But, you likely also do not say "Herndon." Which OP seems to think applies to everyone in 20171,

We say Reston because we are close to the Town Center but use Herndon as our address. No one knows where Oak Hill is so saying it is useless.

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20171 - We go to Chantilly HS and play Chantilly sports but we’re listed in Herndon. Oak Hill is a better designation though I do agree it sounds somewhat pretentious.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been like that for at least 13 Years and and will only change minimally if a new Western HS is built 20 Years from now. So basically not changing for the next 50 Years.

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at what's happening with demographics in the recent decade. We basically have a split county: Majority white vs. majority Hispanic schools. Wealthy vs. poor. Good vs. bad. FCPS has trudged along until now but the disparity and concentrated % of wealth and poverty gets more disproportional every year. I can't see FCPS letting another 20 years go by without intervention if they want to remain an attractive system. Otherwise they'll resemble every other failing metro area school system like Miami-Dade and Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been like that for at least 13 Years and and will only change minimally if a new Western HS is built 20 Years from now. So basically not changing for the next 50 Years.

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at what's happening with demographics in the recent decade. We basically have a split county: Majority white vs. majority Hispanic schools. Wealthy vs. poor. Good vs. bad. FCPS has trudged along until now but the disparity and concentrated % of wealth and poverty gets more disproportional every year. I can't see FCPS letting another 20 years go by without intervention if they want to remain an attractive system. Otherwise they'll resemble every other failing metro area school system like Miami-Dade and Chicago.

There are only three majority white high schools left in FCPS out of 25 - Madison, Robinson, and Langley. Langley will also probably be majority minority within the next five years given its growing Asian population.

The divide is more along economic than racial lines, but it’s largely a function of existing housing patterns. It’s more likely the county will change housing and zoning policy than deliberately change school boundaries to alter school demographics. The one constant is that Langley will always emerge untouched.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's been like that for at least 13 Years and and will only change minimally if a new Western HS is built 20 Years from now. So basically not changing for the next 50 Years.

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at what's happening with demographics in the recent decade. We basically have a split county: Majority white vs. majority Hispanic schools. Wealthy vs. poor. Good vs. bad. FCPS has trudged along until now but the disparity and concentrated % of wealth and poverty gets more disproportional every year. I can't see FCPS letting another 20 years go by without intervention if they want to remain an attractive system. Otherwise they'll resemble every other failing metro area school system like Miami-Dade and Chicago.

Just curious: This is a function of where people live. How do you plan to fix it? Buses crisscrossing Fairfax County?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been like that for at least 13 Years and and will only change minimally if a new Western HS is built 20 Years from now. So basically not changing for the next 50 Years.

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at what's happening with demographics in the recent decade. We basically have a split county: Majority white vs. majority Hispanic schools. Wealthy vs. poor. Good vs. bad. FCPS has trudged along until now but the disparity and concentrated % of wealth and poverty gets more disproportional every year. I can't see FCPS letting another 20 years go by without intervention if they want to remain an attractive system. Otherwise they'll resemble every other failing metro area school system like Miami-Dade and Chicago.

Just curious: This is a function of where people live. How do you plan to fix it? Buses crisscrossing Fairfax County?

No. There are reasonable and fiscally smart ways to help alleviate these issues by making strategic choices with programs.
One easy example is to place the German immersion program at an ES in the Mount Vernon pyramid. Currently Orange Hunt ES has a large proportion of Fort Belvoir families who apply for German immersion or rent in the area to escape the Mt. Vernon pyramid. A program change such as this would encourage such families to stay within the Belvoir hierarchy.
That's just an example of one way to assign attractive programs in schools that would naturally encourage the undoing of concentrated SES. That was the intention of IB which essentially had the opposite effect, but FCPS has never tried anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been like that for at least 13 Years and and will only change minimally if a new Western HS is built 20 Years from now. So basically not changing for the next 50 Years.

I wouldn't be so sure. Look at what's happening with demographics in the recent decade. We basically have a split county: Majority white vs. majority Hispanic schools. Wealthy vs. poor. Good vs. bad. FCPS has trudged along until now but the disparity and concentrated % of wealth and poverty gets more disproportional every year. I can't see FCPS letting another 20 years go by without intervention if they want to remain an attractive system. Otherwise they'll resemble every other failing metro area school system like Miami-Dade and Chicago.

Just curious: This is a function of where people live. How do you plan to fix it? Buses crisscrossing Fairfax County?

No. There are reasonable and fiscally smart ways to help alleviate these issues by making strategic choices with programs.
One easy example is to place the German immersion program at an ES in the Mount Vernon pyramid. Currently Orange Hunt ES has a large proportion of Fort Belvoir families who apply for German immersion or rent in the area to escape the Mt. Vernon pyramid. A program change such as this would encourage such families to stay within the Belvoir hierarchy.
That's just an example of one way to assign attractive programs in schools that would naturally encourage the undoing of concentrated SES. That was the intention of IB which essentially had the opposite effect, but FCPS has never tried anything else.

Well, for all their talk of equity, the SB sure loves them some IB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are kids who live in Herndon at Westfield HS. Its ridiculous.

During the 2008 South Lakes boundary study, that neighborhood was rejected by both the South Lakes and the Herndon PTAs.

Fox Mill is in Oak Hill. None of use it but we are not Reston or Herndon. And we moved to SLHS in 2008.

Fox Mill is not the neighborhood that PP was talking about.

I'm the OP, what neighborhood are you referring to? There are a lot of them out there along Fairfax County Parkway. Bradley something, maybe?

Franklin Farm/Chantilly Highlands/Smaller neighborhoods south of Fox Mill

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None of Franklin in Farm goes to Westfield. Nor does Chantilly Highlands. The 20171 neighborhoods that are zoned for Westfield are west of the Fairfax County Parkway and close to the toll road. Westfield does seem to be a bit further south than makes sense for those neighborhoods. It would be nice if some neighborhood zone for Chantilly could be moved to Westfield, but I would assume Westfield is too crowded for that.

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Chantilly is their closest high school. Franklin Farm goes to Oakton because Chantilly is overcrowded. And, FWIW, it is not close or near Herndon High which is on the far side of Herndon from Franklin Farm.

When the new post office was named for 20171 there were several options given. Oak Hill won on a vote of some sort.

I don't understand why OP resents it so much. It is an area that is between Herndon, Reston, Chantilly, Oakton, and Vienna. Yes, I don't usually say "Oak Hill"-I usually describe that it is between x and x. It is basically a suburban area with no town center.

Look at a map.

The closest neighborhood in that area is the new development going up by the Toll Road near the intersection of 28 and Centreville Rd. It goes to Westfield because it was rejected by South Lakes and Herndon in the South Lakes redistricting. It is now full of expensive town houses and growing. Coates is the elementary school.