Women 35+ who have never been in a relationship

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Anonymous wrote:"Very pretty" women are almost never single. They must not be pretty.


Untrue. There are many very pretty single women.


They must still be in their 20s.

A "very pretty" woman would be fending off suitors. There are always exceptions, but in 95% of the cases, a really pretty woman would be scooped up real quick.



In the dmv? Where you need a car to get anywhere? Where might these suitors be for a work from home person? At the chicfila? The costco where men keep their gaze to the ceiling and many are with kids? And no dog parks for me after a pit attacked my pup.

What!! The DMV is full of bars, lounges, cultural events, social activities, church groups, volunteer orgs for single women to attend. In fact a lot of events are sausage fests where you have more than your fair pick of professional men. Now that I live in flyover country I realize it really was a land of milk and honey for dating compared to here!


I'm not in a church group. So basically you're saying I have to go and find these men that I have to fend off with a stick. Find another single over 35 yr old friend to go with and if we are hot enough we will get an army of suitors to fend off. Sounds like work.


Well PP, here is your answer to why women are single so long - somehow have convinced themselves it is a huge effort just to try.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.
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I was about 30 when I finally got into a serious relationship. My upbringing was very puritanical, but not in a religious sense. My whole family was just prudes. My ideas of relationships came from romance novels and some very skewed perception of sexuality. By the time I was in my late 20s I tried to loosen up and have casual relationships, but it just didn't work for me that way. In short, I didn't know how to date or relate to men.


Same. I also had no brothers. I had relationships but not a real one until my 30s.
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Anonymous wrote:"Very pretty" women are almost never single. They must not be pretty.


Untrue. There are many very pretty single women.


They must still be in their 20s.

A "very pretty" woman would be fending off suitors. There are always exceptions, but in 95% of the cases, a really pretty woman would be scooped up real quick.



Some of them give off a self-sufficiency vibe or an aloof vibe that makes men not approach them.
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I just turned 35 so I guess that makes me one of these women. Why? Because I'm primarily attracted to women and very, very lazy about dating. I like being single just fine and hate going to bars and clubs which really cuts down on the opportunities to meet other women who are into women. If I really wanted a relationship, I would have gotten over myself and put effort into dating apps and pride events and stuff but I don't care enough to do so. I assume my straight sisters are likewise pretty happy being single so it doesn't seem worth the effort to really hunt for a compatible person.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


This is such a strange response. I don't mean this unkindly, but if you are this anxious about sharing what kind of TV shows you like to watch, you probably need therapy. Men - they are similar to women! My husband and I recently have watched Succession, Poker Face, and Billions together and enjoyed them together.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.

and to add.. when I was in my 20s, I didn't like talking about personal stuff. Like I said, I was closed off. That's why I was socially awkward, too.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.


I promise you, men at at the age of 30 aren't watching Jackass (is that still even on?!)
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.


I just don't understand why you think a 30 year old would be talking about those kinds of shows. And use it as a reason not to get involved with other people!
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


This is such a strange response. I don't mean this unkindly, but if you are this anxious about sharing what kind of TV shows you like to watch, you probably need therapy. Men - they are similar to women! My husband and I recently have watched Succession, Poker Face, and Billions together and enjoyed them together.

PP here.. I know. I could've used therapy in my 20s. I'm not in my 20s any longer, nor do I have this kind of issue now.

But talking to your DH about shows is not the same as talking to some random person you just met.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.


I just don't understand why you think a 30 year old would be talking about those kinds of shows. And use it as a reason not to get involved with other people!

experience. I've met 30 yr olds back then who did watch and talk about those shows. I'm not 30 any longer.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.

and to add.. when I was in my 20s, I didn't like talking about personal stuff. Like I said, I was closed off. That's why I was socially awkward, too.


Did you want to make connections, but didn't feel like you could do it? It sounds to me like you're just psyching yourself out from normal conversations.

But let me just add - I married a guy who HATES small talk and is SUPER awkward when it comes to those sorts of conversations. I don't love small talk myself, but I ask a lot of questions, and find most people are very happy to talk about themselves for any period of time. You don't need to talk about yourself at all in that case - just be interested in what they have to say. I promise it will almost certainly not have anything to do with Jackass.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.

and to add.. when I was in my 20s, I didn't like talking about personal stuff. Like I said, I was closed off. That's why I was socially awkward, too.


Did you want to make connections, but didn't feel like you could do it? It sounds to me like you're just psyching yourself out from normal conversations.

But let me just add - I married a guy who HATES small talk and is SUPER awkward when it comes to those sorts of conversations. I don't love small talk myself, but I ask a lot of questions, and find most people are very happy to talk about themselves for any period of time. You don't need to talk about yourself at all in that case - just be interested in what they have to say. I promise it will almost certainly not have anything to do with Jackass.

yes, that was me. Like I said, I was pretty closed off. Even my friends said I was pretty closed off.

I'm no longer like that, as much.
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Anonymous wrote:They are very pretty, educated, professionally successful, and have interesting hobbies.

But they have few social skills. They don't know how to date. They don't know how to communicate well. They don't know how to be with someone in a non-work capacity. They have no idea about how to sustain a long-term, loving relationship with one other person. No man her age wants to teach her how, either. Instead, a man will look at her and think there must be a bad reason why she's never had a long-term relationship. Next.

That's the cold, hard truth.

yep, that was me. I didn't know what to talk to guys about other than work stuff, news and current events. I took myself way too seriously.


So what are we supposed to talk about? /middle aged women lacking social skills.


PP here, well, now that I'm in my early 50s, I have my kids, my house, summer plans, some traveling I've done, to talk about. When I was 30, I didn't have any kids, hadn't traveled much, and was apartment hopping.


Did you watch movies? Television shows? Listen to music? Read books?

Yea, movies and tv are somewhat safe topics, and I did talk about those, but it was also about feeling comfortable with the other person to talk about things like that because what you watch is kind of personal, IMO, but I guess it would show how compatible you might be.

Like when I was 30, if a guy talked about watching jack@ass, I'd be completely turned off. I'd feel the same about women who watched The Real Housewives, too.


that's some weird stereotyping!

people usually talk about themselves - their lives, where they've lived, what's been important to them. things they find funny. i guess tv and movies, too - or, when i was younger, music. you know - people just TALK. they don't just go dur dur dur me man me like other men getting hit in nuts.

yea, like I said, I'm a little bit socially awkward, but if a 30 yr old started talking about those kinds of shows, I'd be turned off.


I just don't understand why you think a 30 year old would be talking about those kinds of shows. And use it as a reason not to get involved with other people!

experience. I've met 30 yr olds back then who did watch and talk about those shows. I'm not 30 any longer.


NP, I'm 48. This makes me laugh. Yes, I can vouch for 30 year olds back in the day talking about Jackass.
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