TikTok CEO testifies before Congress

Anonymous
Tbh, I think TikTok and other social media platforms should be quite limited in what they should serve up to children. China has limits on how long the kids can use the apps (40 minutes per day) and the content displayed (topics focused on education, science, tech, sports, history, etc).

The Chinese know that social media is harmful to developing brains, and probably even adults too.

https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/china-is-hurting-us-kids-with-tiktok-but-protecting-its-own/amp/

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/03/08/1069527/china-tiktok-douyin-teens-privacy/amp/


I feel like this is the next Big Tobacco case - we instinctively knew for a long time it was unhealthy, but we truly did not understand the full effects and in fact we were lied to by the purveyors.
Anonymous
Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


Kids are unable to control themselves. The social media companies can’t control themselves either. Parents are not looking over their kids shoulders 24/7.

There should be restrictions on use time and content fed to children. That’s not government censorship; it’s common sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


I'm in favor of ACTING against a hostile power and not waiting until we regret it.

Fentanyl is the number one killer of 18-45 year olds. Guess who supplies the chemicals? CN. Guess who produces it? MX.

Stop waiting and wanting for disasters.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just don’t understand who gets this “educational videos”
All my DD gets is videos on failing classes, skipping school and or classes, vaping, and then dancing videos.


China does. They don't allow the latter content to be available. [/quote

China's version of TikTok

“If you're under 14 years old, they show you science experiments you can do at home, museum exhibits, patriotism videos and educational videos,” said Harris, according to “60 Minutes,” adding that children in China were limited to only 40 minutes a day on the app.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


Kids are unable to control themselves. The social media companies can’t control themselves either. Parents are not looking over their kids shoulders 24/7.

There should be restrictions on use time and content fed to children. That’s not government censorship; it’s common sense.


This is where parents need to wake the F up! And parent. Stop waiting for the government to do it for you and say no to your kids. It’s okay to be the bad guy! It’s their mental health at stake here. It’s a cop out to stay that, as parents, we can’t help by settling limits on kids and their access. It’s neglectful and lazy parenting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


I'm in favor of ACTING against a hostile power and not waiting until we regret it.

Fentanyl is the number one killer of 18-45 year olds. Guess who supplies the chemicals? CN. Guess who produces it? MX.

Stop waiting and wanting for disasters.


It's not only the kids. It is adults and people who promote their businesses on Tik Tok as well.
It is time to shut down this app.
Here is Marco Rubio's response to some questions asked of him during an interview:

Lydia: Of course for lawmakers to pass something that’s not popular — especially with young voters – would be a tough call.

Sen Rubio: “Millions of Americans depend on it for their business.” The number of people making that argument is going to grow in the future. The problem is, you’re basically arguing you’ve turned over your livelihood to a foreign power – the Chinese government. People could argue for the same reasons not to interfere in Taiwan or the South China Sea.

We’re living in an incredible historic moment. We need to be willing to be judged. If we get this wrong, we’ll be condemned. We are in an era of conflict – geopolitical and diplomatic conflict. No conflict comes without a price.

We were worried about Russian ads on Facebook, but China has been running ads on TikTok during our elections.

Lydia: China already has a lot of our data. Can we do anything to mitigate that?

Sen. Rubio: Engineers in China have a digital dossier on Indian users even after India banned it. The amount of data that resides in the hands of China is enormous. Ultimately China could use this commercial advantage to put American companies out of business. I can prove to you what they’re capable of doing now – spying on journalists. The only thing missing to bombard people with more propaganda on TikTok is the Chinese government requesting they do it.


https://nypost.com/2023/03/23/marco-rubio-on-why-an-outright-tiktok-ban-is-the-only-solution/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


Kids are unable to control themselves. The social media companies can’t control themselves either. Parents are not looking over their kids shoulders 24/7.

There should be restrictions on use time and content fed to children. That’s not government censorship; it’s common sense.


This is where parents need to wake the F up! And parent. Stop waiting for the government to do it for you and say no to your kids. It’s okay to be the bad guy! It’s their mental health at stake here. It’s a cop out to stay that, as parents, we can’t help by settling limits on kids and their access. It’s neglectful and lazy parenting.


Most kid will do the opposite of what parents tell them. It’s part of being a kid - testing boundaries. Kids will sneak their phones, jailbreak the software, etc.

Telling social media companies to limit access time and content isn’t a violation of freedom. Do you say the same thing when kids can’t buy a nudie mag or enter a strip club?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are advocating for government control of content online a la China.

Do you hear yourselves? You are pro government censorship. You are asking for a big brother, big government.

If you don’t want your kids on Tiktok, you can forbid them from using it and lock down their phones. You could talk to them about why you don’t want them on it.


Great! Now do tobacco.

I’ll wait.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Did he get any prep before coming to testifie? My god, I feel bad for him, I live Tiktok, but he isn't helping at all.


Did you see how Congress was hostile and rude to him? Did you see how many times he was interrupted all while trying to keep calm and sane despite the rude AF questions, not to mention the glaringly stupid ones? I mean, these are people who know nothing about the internet, yet they'll be making decisions on how Americans should use it. I'm shocked; and I'm even more shocked that they can quickly come together in a bipartisan manner to focus on TikTok but somehow can't agree on gun reform Like these people care about kids, my ass.


Am I supposed to fee bad for a Chinese company operating in the US in market segment where US companies are banned in China?


I don't care about TikTok, the company. Care about the 150M Americans who use it, some who get a ton of good from it, including making a living from it. It's the only app where people can actually get raw, unfiltered content that hasn't been massaged by the media. This is about freedom of expression and speech, and interestingly, the US government doesn't want us to have that. I don't see the outrage for Facebook/Instagram who have tons of data on us. Where's their outrage whenever a school shooting happens? I wish they could come together just as quickly to actually do something about that.


You should. A Chinese owned company controlled by the CCP. And, you think it is "unfiltered?"


This! There are 2 parts to Tik Tok issue: one is the privacy issue that affects all social media companies and the other issue is that the parent company of Tiktok is based in China and therefore the CCP can access US population data. The 2nd part is a real concern. The fact that both sides of the house were united on this issue should communicate how serious this is.


Regarding part 2, so what? What do you think they will do with the information?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Did he get any prep before coming to testifie? My god, I feel bad for him, I live Tiktok, but he isn't helping at all.


Did you see how Congress was hostile and rude to him? Did you see how many times he was interrupted all while trying to keep calm and sane despite the rude AF questions, not to mention the glaringly stupid ones? I mean, these are people who know nothing about the internet, yet they'll be making decisions on how Americans should use it. I'm shocked; and I'm even more shocked that they can quickly come together in a bipartisan manner to focus on TikTok but somehow can't agree on gun reform Like these people care about kids, my ass.


Am I supposed to fee bad for a Chinese company operating in the US in market segment where US companies are banned in China?


I don't care about TikTok, the company. Care about the 150M Americans who use it, some who get a ton of good from it, including making a living from it. It's the only app where people can actually get raw, unfiltered content that hasn't been massaged by the media. This is about freedom of expression and speech, and interestingly, the US government doesn't want us to have that. I don't see the outrage for Facebook/Instagram who have tons of data on us. Where's their outrage whenever a school shooting happens? I wish they could come together just as quickly to actually do something about that.


You should. A Chinese owned company controlled by the CCP. And, you think it is "unfiltered?"


This! There are 2 parts to Tik Tok issue: one is the privacy issue that affects all social media companies and the other issue is that the parent company of Tiktok is based in China and therefore the CCP can access US population data. The 2nd part is a real concern. The fact that both sides of the house were united on this issue should communicate how serious this is.


Regarding part 2, so what? What do you think they will do with the information?


I heard an example just yesterday that lays it out pretty clearly.
If China has your data, they can feed you content based on your browsing history. They can build a profile of you because they have a lot of information from that device you use.
So, you do a lot of research on Taiwan and the threat that China poses to Taiwan. Let's say a conflict starts - China has essentially promised this will happen.
China can feed you content making you believe that the conflict is the result of Taiwan's actions and not theirs. They can work to convince you that they are the good guys in the conflict.
China is good at propaganda. They can do this with anything they want you to believe.... US elections, Russia's aggression, virus origins, etc. etc. etc.
They have been meddling in Canada's elections already. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64870472
Anonymous
The flip side of the story.. take a close look at the clips where the Tik Tok CEO is practically cringing at the American bullies.

This will play exceptionally well in Chinese propaganda.

Plus, Tik Tok is just one app. No one even mentions Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc.?

Strange.
Anonymous
If they ban Tik Tok, it opens the door to banning Twitter, Facebook, and DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If they ban Tik Tok, it opens the door to banning Twitter, Facebook, and DCUM.


Nice try.,
No. This is about who OWNS Tik Tok and the data that gets in the hand of the CCP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The flip side of the story.. take a close look at the clips where the Tik Tok CEO is practically cringing at the American bullies.

This will play exceptionally well in Chinese propaganda.

Plus, Tik Tok is just one app. No one even mentions Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc.?

Strange.


I suggest you review China lecturing us in the Spring of 2021 in Alaska and how Biden & Company responded. Go ahead. I dare you.

Show weakness, get what you deserve.
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