this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Would your son say that person has testicular cancer? probably not. only the word girl/women are being erased |
Then why would it bother you if you did say girl? |
If you believe that women and girls are people, then why does referring to a woman or girl as a "person" especially when their sex is already known from the word "pregnant" bother you? The only people trying to cancel anyone are the people objecting to the phrase "person". Why are you afraid of that word? Why does someone who says "pregnant person" (which is factually accurate) deserve to get cancelled? |
No one on this thread has been bothered by girl. They've either had a fit about person, or they have said that having a fit about someone using the word person is stupid. The only word that people on this thread seem to be bothered by is person. Why does that word bother you? |
What information does "person" or "individual" add? |
It is not inaccurate to say “pregnant person” or “person with testicular cancer.” Sorry you can’t grasp that basic fact. There’s nothing to argue with.
I could say “the person down the street has a Tesla” or “the man down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor Bob down the street has a Tesla” or “my neighbor who works at UMD has a Tesla.” None of these statements are inaccurate. |
Why does more information need to be added, hmm? |
As a translator I see that tendency to remove the word "woman" everywhere they can. Violence against women became gender-based violence, pregnant women became pregnant persons. I could cite many more. I specifically remember a text where there was a report of x number of girls being abused. They changed it in the original text to say "x number of minors". In my translation, I decided to keep the feminine form since I knew for a fact they were all girls. I was told I should stick to the gender neutral. That's the problem with erasing women. What does it mean when we say "x number of people are killed by their intimate partners every year" for example. Aren't we leaving out an essential part of the equation? |
How about you push for trans equality so that anyone who identifies as a woman or a girl is counted as such, then we won’t have to bother with the inclusive language? When a trans woman is murdered, that should count as a woman being murdered, yes? |
One in many thousands pregnant people may be a transgendered man. So that's the reasoning behind it. |
This. It is ridiculous. |
I translated several hundred pages on transgender violence. Transgendered women being murdered are accounted for as such because it's a very specific hate crime and we don't just say they are women or people. The same way when women are murdered by their partner, it's important to say they were women and not just people, because that's what motivated the crime. |
You are wrong. People use the term "pregnant person" because they don't want to offend anyone. You know that. Answer my question first. Why does the wod girl bother you. Would you say "a person in my class has testicular cancer" OR would you say "a boy in my class has testicular cancer" |
And neither is saying " a girl in my class is pregnant" She identifies as a girl. Why are you policing what I say? |
NP. The words “girl” and “women” do not bother me. I hear and say those things in conversation. I am also completely unbothered by the word “person.” I don’t care which word is used. The point of language to convey meaning, and when someone is described as a “pregnant person” or a “pregnant woman”…I got the meaning, and I move on with my day. For anyone to bring conversation to a screeching halt over “person” is beyond absurd and dramatic. |