Paris Hilton - Baby Boy

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

Well unfortunately there’s no enforcement of morals.

I feel so bad for the daughter. If she was crushed at the wedding news, imagine learning about the baby. Can’t wait for his “proud father” posts and statements. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

Well unfortunately there’s no enforcement of morals.

I feel so bad for the daughter. If she was crushed at the wedding news, imagine learning about the baby. Can’t wait for his “proud father” posts and statements. 🙄

I know. I don't think there should be, I'm not saying that. Just saying he is a bad person in my books.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Yep.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

I mean she has no relationship with Carter, so not sure how she would take anything up with him.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

I don't think anyone is disputing this. It's just sad for the child.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

I'm not saying you can force anyone to do anything. But men don't get a pass from me for fathering a child and then abandoning it just because they didn't want to be fathers.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

Well, the child lives with the choices. The choice of the mom to have the baby, the choice of the dad to abandon it

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

I don't think anyone is disputing this. It's just sad for the child.

There is a poster saying “ He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way.”

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how she kept saying in media what a great dad her husband would be. He was already a dad. A terrible dad who didn’t acknowledge or see his kid.

Wow really?! I hadn’t read about this.

He has a daughter from a previous relationship with a reality-show actress. He is not a part of the kid’s life and she was not invited to the wedding.

Ugh this is so gross.

“The people who this story matters to have known about it for 10 years. Carter supports this child. While he does not have a traditional father-daughter relationship with her, he has provided for her since she was born, and will continue to do so,” said a spokesperson for Reum.”
https://pagesix.com/2021/11/15/revealed-paris-hiltons-husband-carter-reum-has-a-lovechild/

He clearly has the finances to ensure he had rights to see his child. That he doesn’t is sad. Seems like he didn’t want this child.

Even if he didn’t want her she exists now. It’s messed up and I have no respect for him.

Is a shitty involved father better than no father involved?

Wait what? A father who bows out is a shitty father.

You can’t make someone be a parent. I was responding to PP’s comment about the daughter existing whether he wanted her or not. So my question is the guy clearly didn’t want the kid. If he was forced to be in her life is it better to have a father involved that’s shitty to your face because he didn’t want you. Or is it better if this person is never in your life?

It’s better if he’s not a POS and cares for his child. He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way. There’s no such thing as “forcing” a parent to be in the child’s life so I have no idea where you’re even going with that. But I have absolutely no respect for him.

Women need to understand that men having sex with them does not mean that they want to father a child. Women need to be in BC and insist that the man should wear a condom. Otherwise? Bye bye baby!

So I guess you don’t like the idea of child support.

NP. Personally, I think men need to be held accountable for every penny of child support, but you can't expect them to be fathers in anything other than finances if they don't want to be. As long as he made his intentions clear to not be a parent but to keep cutting the checks til 18, he's fine. If that was not ok with her, she could choose to not have the child.

And if it's not ok with the child? She should just accept that he doesn't want to be her father in "anything other than finances"? I get that legally that is acceptable, but morally it is not, at least to me

She can take it up with her mom because her mom was the one who chose to bring her into this world in less than ideal circumstances. Her mom decided it didn't matter to her to give her a father in anything other than finances.

Oh, ok. She should blame her mom for not aborting her. Got it. Not her father who is actively choosing not to be in her life.

As long as he dutifully pays his child support and made it crystal clear early on that he was not going to be a parent (maybe even signing away his parental rights) then yes.

Only way to make it crystal clear is to use a condom

And she could have insisted on one or gotten an IUD. We don't know what went down with birth control. But as an adamantly pro-choice woman, it's ultimately the woman's job to determine if she wants to carry a pregnancy. If you decide to do that with an unwilling partner, that's totally fine, tons of women become single mothers. But beyond child support, you cannot compel a man to be a father. You just can't. So you live with your choices.

I don't think anyone is disputing this. It's just sad for the child.

There is a poster saying “ He should have gotten a therapist, sorted out his regret over not wearing a condom, and then raised his kid in a loving way.”

Right, that is what a good person would do. But no one can force him to be a good person