Student Behavior - Starting to Fall Apart?

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

So much of this. It’s only a few kids, but boy, can they just completely ruin your day. I’ve been coaching my most difficult students to just ask nicely if they need to take a moment instead of shouting “leave me alone” or trashing their stuff. I wish teaching was just passing knowledge onto others, but I feel like a behavioral manager every day instead. So much for “just focus on academics” that parents on DCUM keep shouting out

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That’s what happens when you have poor administration.

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

You sound like a person who knows nothing about schools yet thinks it’s ok to comment anyways. Yes, there are kids in 4th and higher grades that don’t know math and basic spelling, their behavior goes hand in hand with their poor academics. These kids get special ed hours, instructional assistant help during math and language arts and the result? Attitude and refusal to participate. I try my best to help these kids but I cannot perform miracles. These kids don’t belong to public schools, they need more instructions in smaller setting and they need their parents to help!

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

you should experience them in college!

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

Unhinged, histrionic, frazzled, limited tolerance for stressful situations, weak cognitive reasoning skills, do yourself a favor and stick to working with kids l, zero chance you’d make it in the private sector. Seriously if you are having a nervous breakdown go out in disability, use the time to think about your next move. Maybe try floral arranging?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

Unhinged, histrionic, frazzled, limited tolerance for stressful situations, weak cognitive reasoning skills, do yourself a favor and stick to working with kids l, zero chance you’d make it in the private sector. Seriously if you are having a nervous breakdown go out in disability, use the time to think about your next move. Maybe try floral arranging?

Wait a minute. Are you seriously attempting to argue that you in your private sector job have to keep 24+ children safe in an environment where people are throwing things? And you can’t touch the aggressor in anyway?
Is that what you are saying, that the private sector office work environment is similar in nature to a classroom of out of control kids?

I didn’t know black water still existed!

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

Unhinged, histrionic, frazzled, limited tolerance for stressful situations, weak cognitive reasoning skills, do yourself a favor and stick to working with kids l, zero chance you’d make it in the private sector. Seriously if you are having a nervous breakdown go out in disability, use the time to think about your next move. Maybe try floral arranging?

Wait a minute. Are you seriously attempting to argue that you in your private sector job have to keep 24+ children safe in an environment where people are throwing things? And you can’t touch the aggressor in anyway?
Is that what you are saying, that the private sector office work environment is similar in nature to a classroom of out of control kids?

I didn’t know black water still existed!

+1000%.
I left teaching three years ago, make $30,000 more than I did when I was teaching, and have the most boring days of my life. Any teacher can survive in the private sector. It’s truly not a special gift…billions of people do it daily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

I love that line. Maybe I’ll use it with my high school students in Algebra 2, who got through Algebra virtually using Photomath and are now giving me attitude. I won’t really but I could. They also don’t know how to subtract 5x-2x.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s what happens when you have poor administration.

Not always! Admins hands are tied just like teachers-admins can't do much with behaviors either-it's ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

Unhinged, histrionic, frazzled, limited tolerance for stressful situations, weak cognitive reasoning skills, do yourself a favor and stick to working with kids l, zero chance you’d make it in the private sector. Seriously if you are having a nervous breakdown go out in disability, use the time to think about your next move. Maybe try floral arranging?

I had a corporate mom-VP level volunteer in my class a few years ago and she said- I don't know how you do this all day. She was frazzled after an hour. She's an amazing business woman but admitted in the classroom it's all too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

I had to evacuate my class many times last year. I also had to re arrange furniture (climbing), hide things (throwing) and took risks using my computer, smart board, etc on a daily basis.

My whole class schedule had to be restructured and no normal things could be done well because of the constant support and 1:1 this one child needed. There are no other human bodies to help. It takes months to get any sort of IEP in place but you can’t do an IEP based on class behavior alone.

It was a very tiring year. And I had many other challenges on top of the main one.

Education really is brought down to the neediest. I don’t say that in a mean way but entire classes suffer because of one student because that’s just how the system is these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

I had to evacuate my class many times last year. I also had to re arrange furniture (climbing), hide things (throwing) and took risks using my computer, smart board, etc on a daily basis.

My whole class schedule had to be restructured and no normal things could be done well because of the constant support and 1:1 this one child needed. There are no other human bodies to help. It takes months to get any sort of IEP in place but you can’t do an IEP based on class behavior alone.

It was a very tiring year. And I had many other challenges on top of the main one.

Education really is brought down to the neediest. I don’t say that in a mean way but entire classes suffer because of one student because that’s just how the system is these days.

Would getting rid of the problem kids help? Absolutely. Some people with means will choose private due to this. It sucks for the rest of the normal kids in public school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

Dear Parent, Thank you so much for emailing the principal about this. Seriously. Parents are the ONLY people most administrators listen to. Better yet, email the superintendent. File a class action suit. Something in this country has to change around special education laws. The right to FAPE that students with disabilities or potential disabilities have cannot come at the EXPENSE of everyone else's learning or safety. I'm a teacher who is looking for a job outside of education because it is all far too much. I can't deal, I'm out.

Unhinged, histrionic, frazzled, limited tolerance for stressful situations, weak cognitive reasoning skills, do yourself a favor and stick to working with kids l, zero chance you’d make it in the private sector. Seriously if you are having a nervous breakdown go out in disability, use the time to think about your next move. Maybe try floral arranging?

I had a corporate mom-VP level volunteer in my class a few years ago and she said- I don't know how you do this all day. She was frazzled after an hour. She's an amazing business woman but admitted in the classroom it's all too much.

This is what most parent volunteers say to me after a field trip or volunteering in the classroom!