Student Behavior - Starting to Fall Apart?

[Anonymous]

The kids who were home for K and 1 are basically now feral

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids who were home for K and 1 are basically now feral

What about the kids in K this year....what's the excuse?

[Anonymous]

FCPS has been changing its behavior policies, focusing on less punishment. They have PBIS that bribes kids for good behavior. The goal is to have equal punishment rate outcome for white, black, hispanic students. It started in Loudoun, and Fairfax is emulating it.
Nationally there is a push to eliminate the school to prison pipeline, and have schools not report kids to police. Had his school not adopted such a program(for which the superintendent received a national award), TrayVon Martin would have been in jail the day he was shot.

[Anonymous]

There are few consequences for misbehavior in elementary school, and it is obvious by the behavior that is going on. The negative behavior needs to have a cost to the child. It’s the biggest problem facing our schools today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS has been changing its behavior policies, focusing on less punishment. They have PBIS that bribes kids for good behavior. The goal is to have equal punishment rate outcome for white, black, hispanic students. It started in Loudoun, and Fairfax is emulating it.
Nationally there is a push to eliminate the school to prison pipeline, and have schools not report kids to police. Had his school not adopted such a program(for which the superintendent received a national award), TrayVon Martin would have been in jail the day he was shot.

Then maybe they should give teachers funds with which to purchase bribes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Volunteer in a classroom sometime and prepare to have your mind blown.

In terms of behavior, ask any secondary teacher off the record and they'll tell you that 90% of their energy is spent dealing with 5-10 students who cannot or will not be moved to a more restrictive setting because their admin and/or district doesn't want it to reflect badly on them. Elementary there's usually a small handful of students per grade level who are in the same situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Those with the BIG attitudes are less interested in learning than being disruptive….they can’t learn if they’re distracting the class. Many of these students are the lowest performers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

I had a kid like this last year. I counted it once, we lost 20 hours of CORE instructional time (since they could still go to specials) from the 1st day to Thanksgiving. We finally were able to move him out to self-contained, but the parents fought us all the way. They outright said they didn’t care at all about the other kids education. (By the way, in that same time period, he punched 4 kids and shown his genitals multiple times). I was SO thankful, that the majority of the class was already on grade level and the academic loss was minimal - but we were all emotionally traumatized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even in kindergarten kids are rolling their eyes and talking back.

Lots of back talk and over the top reactions to not getting their way. I’d usually have one difficult student but now I have 4-5. It’s a lot and it makes most days feel like a marathon.

Me at work to my 4th graders: “You have a lot of attitude for someone who doesn’t know how to subtract.”

Umm... you have 4th graders that don't know how to subtract? That seems the larger issue here.

Not the PP but just STOP! Student behavior is a huge issue and it gets in the way of good teaching and learning. Unless you are in the classroom trying to put out 5-7 behavioral fires before lunch and again after-Just STOP!

Exactly!

My DD's 4th grade class has had to evacuate the classroom TWICE this week. Just let that sink in. Today is Wednesday - a holiday - and both Monday and Tuesday they were evacuated. Why? An unruly student. Same student both times. And when they evacuate, it's not for short periods of time, either. DD said on Monday it was almost 2 hours, and the email from the teacher on yesterday's incident said that the students went to Miss M.'s classroom during the duration while her class was out of the room at art class. On Monday the students were taken to the library after 30 minutes when it appeared that they weren't going to get the student calmed quickly. DD said they were told to read books quietly but she said most kids just talked about the incident and all the things the student threw around the classroom.

So, 2 hours on Monday without any constructive learning. Then once the student was out of the room and the room was restored, there was another short period where the teacher talked with the kids about the incident to calm any fears, so maybe another 30 minutes of instruction gone. By then she said they did their math unit and it was the end of the day. So Monday my kid's day was independent reading & journal time, history, PE, lunch, recess, science for a bit until the incident happened, library for 2 hours, and a shortened math unit before dismissal.

This is now the 5th disturbance in her classroom since the school year started. Unacceptable and I know lots of parents spent today emailing the principal about just how unacceptable it is.

I had a kid like this last year. I counted it once, we lost 20 hours of CORE instructional time (since they could still go to specials) from the 1st day to Thanksgiving. We finally were able to move him out to self-contained, but the parents fought us all the way. They outright said they didn’t care at all about the other kids education. (By the way, in that same time period, he punched 4 kids and shown his genitals multiple times). I was SO thankful, that the majority of the class was already on grade level and the academic loss was minimal - but we were all emotionally traumatized.

From teacher to teacher I'm sorry anyone is going through this. I had a kid like this several years back- it took many incidents and five months of documentation for the county to make the correct change. Thank goodness my principal was an amazing guy and stood by me finally suspending the student and we got him moved to an ED school but it was so much and we were all emotionally spent.

[Anonymous]

This year feels like it’s about to fall apart behavior wise at my high school.

I noticed that rhe kids at the walkout last week were disruptive in class the rest of the day. It continued on into to next few days. Encouraging students to protest is making some of them lose control and think anything now goes school because they are untouchable.

[Anonymous]

Freshmen are starting to vandalize bathrooms again. Things like stealing toilet paper dispensers and pulling out all of paper towels.

My upper classman caught a bunch of them in the act and read them the riot act.

Any juniors or seniors who lived through the freshmen destroying the school last year in the name of tiktok have zero patience for this crap again this year. I have spoken with several other parents whose kids have yelled at freshmen the past two weeks trying to start this stuff again. The high school has started locking all or most of the bathrooms again this week.

It is like the walk out last week unleashed all of the bad behavior.

Before the walk out, the freshmen did not seem to be aware of all the freedom they have at high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This year feels like it’s about to fall apart behavior wise at my high school.

I noticed that rhe kids at the walkout last week were disruptive in class the rest of the day. It continued on into to next few days. Encouraging students to protest is making some of them lose control and think anything now goes school because they are untouchable.

I agree!

The walk out opened the door to the Lord of the Flies.

The school board needs to put a stop to this nonsense.

The kids can protest on their own time.

[Anonymous]

I get kids in my ED classroom and can’t imagine how they spent so long in gen ed. I can manage them, with the structures we have in place, but I can’t imagine how the previous class managed. They take way too long to move a kid, even when the parents are in favor. Principals say they don’t have room at special programs, or the child would require too much staff time. So they stay in base school.

If your child’s room is being disrupted, you need to call the school board and the region office. If your child is hit or hurt by an object that was thrown, make a police report, just as you would if it happened in the neighborhood. Some of these kids desperately need help, and that will move it along quickly.