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Anonymous
I think you view politics as black and white. Not everyone fits neatly in the boxes you have drawn. I did not vote for Donald Trump. I am Muslim. I am a democrat. I am anti-war. I believe in Medicare for All. I support unions. What I don’t support is teachers telling kids to go protest or hinting they should. If a student wants to attend a protest that’s fine. It’s that student’s constitutional right to do so. The problem is when a figure of authority like a teacher encourages her students to protest, there will be some students who will not want to. These students may not feel comfortable saying no because they know their teacher wants them to do so. |
Anonymous
It's why Youngkin won. If you do anything to object to the far left of the party (like object to kids being unnecessarily locked out of school in 20-21), you're a Trump supporter. People just vote for Youngkin to throw the far left of the party out of power. |
Anonymous
Yep. Let Oberlin be a lesson. Student initiated, fine. Teacher organized, not cool. |
Anonymous
Yes. My entire mosque has been up in arms about the situation. People are freaking out that democrats will take their kids away from them if they don’t agree with the new gender ideology. So they view their Youngkin vote as supporting the lesser of two evils. These are ppl who tend to vote Democrat and view Republicans as racists. |
Anonymous
We have a coach posting here that he and his buddies will secretly “blackball” any student athlete who protests. Yet what you’re worried about is a teacher who merely “encourages” students to protest. Why? |
Anonymous
+1 the only evidence of anyone taking children away from their parents was Trump who actually did it! |
Anonymous
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"My kid better not be supporting their friends! Trans people need to feel isolated and bad about their choices. That's it I'm cutting them from sports and voting for the fascists to teach them a lesson!"
People itt apparently |
Anonymous
| This post literally makes my stomach hurt. Some of you were arguing that you’re so worried about “others” bc they may lose their children. There are those of us with gender nonconforming children who are literally losing right now, we’re losing our children to suicide, we’re losing our children’s ability to have a safe place to change, and losing the hope that people will love our children for who they are, human beings just like you. I can’t believe how much hate, ignorance and small mindednesses there is in this area and in this board. |
Anonymous
Maybe if you understood sex and gender… |
Anonymous
So you support separating sports and bathrooms by sex, not gender? Kids don’t need hormonal therapy because there’s no need to change sex, just gender identity? |
Anonymous
I'm only going to address the bathroom and locker room question because I think your second question has nothing to do with schools, and I do find the sports question a complicated one. So many parents are all up in arms about people with penises in female bathrooms and locker rooms. I'd really like to hear from students on this one. Many HS students are over 18 and society trusts them with a lot. My understanding is that many HS girls do not care if people presenting as girls/women use the girls'/ladies bathroom. But I have not seen proper surveys. I've just seen parents freaking out. Parents who grew up when the phrase 'That's so gay' was common and practically acceptable. |
Anonymous
| Do you always try to give orders to strangers in how they raise their children? |
Anonymous
+ 100. I can't WAIT for the day that people that think the schools should have this authority (because their parents are BAD!) runs up against an issue with which they disagree. Then will they want parental authority, or do they want the government, in the form of the school, to make the BEST decision for their child as they see fit? Keep giving away parental authority people because you think the government policy is correct and you happen to agree with it. One day you won't agree and then you'll understand. People are insane. |
Anonymous
My kid is in a different PWCS high school and this is the first I've heard of it. My kid isn't home right now but I will ask him if he knows of this when I see him. |
Anonymous
Muslim poster here. Youngkin’s policy is over reaching. That’s a major issue I agree. Muslims in the US have a love and let live attitude. So even though many Muslims believe that gay marriage is for example not religiously sanctioned, a lot of Muslims supported it because they realize that this is a multi cultural society and their rights depend on the rights of others. The problem here is that many Muslims (I’ll wager to say the majority) do not believe that schools have the right to raise their children. So if a Muslim child feels like they wants to identify with a gender opposite to their gender assigned at birth, parents want to know about it. These parents in the most case are parents who love their children but do not believe in gender affirming care (my apologies if I get the terminology wrong. English isn’t my first language). You may disagree and you have that right. But they also have the right to raise their own children. This issue is far from settled. Sweden, Finland and the UK are moving away from gender affirming care because they found that it in fact does not lower suicide risks. Again you may disagree with these findings but like I said the issue is far from settled. See this article for example which is a good summary: https://www.commonsense.news/p/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-gender As for me, I only agree with one portion of Youngkin’s guidance: that parents should be part of the decision of their child socially transitioning. A student should not be able to socially transition in school without their parents knowing. If the school fears abuse then they should report the parents. The other parts are worrisome. For example if a parent agrees to the child socially transitioning, why would the guidance allow for a teacher to “consciously object?” Again it is an issue of parental rights. The parents are the child’s legal guardian. If the parents believe that socially transitioning is in the best interest of their child then who is a teacher to object? The other issue is the bathroom and locker room issue. Where I am from, common changing rooms aren’t the norm. I will change in a women’s locker room but if given the choice I would prefer some privacy. This is the same as bathrooms. I prefer privacy. Bullying in locker rooms and bathrooms are also a concern. I can imagine a scenario where a trans girl is forced to use the boys bathroom and is beaten up. I can also imagine a scenario where a boy decides to take advantage of a school’s pro-trans policy, pretends he now identifies as a girl and goes into the girls bathroom. It’s far fetched but the fear exists. I think in general kids should be able to use the bathroom of the sex they identify with. These are kids after all. That being said schools should provide private single bathrooms and locker rooms for kids that are not comfortable with communal bathrooms and locker rooms in general. The sports situation is more complicated as seen in the latest controversy. I don’t know the answer to that and I believe we can come up with a solution that is nuanced. However with the Lia Thomas controversy, I believe she should not have been allowed to compete against biological women. |