35 votes, Elrich won, but it is not the end

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Anonymous wrote:Why all the fretting? There will be a recount.

Recounts rarely, if ever, change the outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

I'm laughing that your candidate spent a combined $10 million to lose two elections to an elderly hippie socialist. That's pretty awesome.

You really shouldn't be. Leggett won his primaries by huge margins. Not by 35 votes. In 2014 he won by 12,000 votes with three people in the race, Duncan and Andrews, both very well known.

He was unopposed in 2010. But when he first ran in 2006, he won 67% of the vote over Steve Silverman (also well known).

Elrich should really deeply reflect on why half the voters really don't want him to continue in a second term.

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He also should think about why he only won the 2018 primary by 77 votes and then somehow got even more unpopular this time around.

Elrich did a much better job than I expected, so I actually voted for him in the primary this time.

Elrich won by a smaller number of votes than last time. That means that more people disagreed with you than last time.

You mean all the repubs who voted for Blair?

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

I'm laughing that your candidate spent a combined $10 million to lose two elections to an elderly hippie socialist. That's pretty awesome.

You really shouldn't be. Leggett won his primaries by huge margins. Not by 35 votes. In 2014 he won by 12,000 votes with three people in the race, Duncan and Andrews, both very well known.

He was unopposed in 2010. But when he first ran in 2006, he won 67% of the vote over Steve Silverman (also well known).

Elrich should really deeply reflect on why half the voters really don't want him to continue in a second term.

+1

He also should think about why he only won the 2018 primary by 77 votes and then somehow got even more unpopular this time around.

Elrich did a much better job than I expected, so I actually voted for him in the primary this time.

Elrich won by a smaller number of votes than last time. That means that more people disagreed with you than last time.

You mean all the repubs who voted for Blair?

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

+1honestlu, thanks for the reminder Elrich voters are dumb as rock's

No, we live on the east side of the county (not TP) where developers want to throw up crap dense housing for poorer people.

I didn't want to elect someone funded out of his own pocket (Blair) who would probably throw us to the developer wolves and chase us non wealthy sfh owners out to Frederick. I actually make under 150k, work in in MoCo and want to be able.yo afford to buy a sfh in MoCo.

If anyone pays that much money out of their own pocket to win an election, there is a reason. Hopefully my vote was one of 35.

I'm all for business development in MoCo, but with someone else besides Blair.

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He won!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/08/24/elrich-wins-primary-recount/

Cry harder, centrists.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

+1honestlu, thanks for the reminder Elrich voters are dumb as rock's

No, we live on the east side of the county (not TP) where developers want to throw up crap dense housing for poorer people.

I didn't want to elect someone funded out of his own pocket (Blair) who would probably throw us to the developer wolves and chase us non wealthy sfh owners out to Frederick. I actually make under 150k, work in in MoCo and want to be able.yo afford to buy a sfh in MoCo.

If anyone pays that much money out of their own pocket to win an election, there is a reason. Hopefully my vote was one of 35.

I'm all for business development in MoCo, but with someone else besides Blair.

Don’t understand the logic: Blair was the only pro-business candidate. When you voted for Erlich you decided for Frederick business growth.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

+1honestlu, thanks for the reminder Elrich voters are dumb as rock's

No, we live on the east side of the county (not TP) where developers want to throw up crap dense housing for poorer people.

I didn't want to elect someone funded out of his own pocket (Blair) who would probably throw us to the developer wolves and chase us non wealthy sfh owners out to Frederick. I actually make under 150k, work in in MoCo and want to be able.yo afford to buy a sfh in MoCo.

If anyone pays that much money out of their own pocket to win an election, there is a reason. Hopefully my vote was one of 35.

I'm all for business development in MoCo, but with someone else besides Blair.

Don’t understand the logic: Blair was the only pro-business candidate. When you voted for Erlich you decided for Frederick business growth.

Yes. Which Elrich is fine with. I am bookmarking this thread and will resurrect it when taxes go up and services get cut. People get the government they deserve.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

I'm laughing that your candidate spent a combined $10 million to lose two elections to an elderly hippie socialist. That's pretty awesome.

You really shouldn't be. Leggett won his primaries by huge margins. Not by 35 votes. In 2014 he won by 12,000 votes with three people in the race, Duncan and Andrews, both very well known.

He was unopposed in 2010. But when he first ran in 2006, he won 67% of the vote over Steve Silverman (also well known).

Elrich should really deeply reflect on why half the voters really don't want him to continue in a second term.

+1

He also should think about why he only won the 2018 primary by 77 votes and then somehow got even more unpopular this time around.

Elrich did a much better job than I expected, so I actually voted for him in the primary this time.

Elrich won by a smaller number of votes than last time. That means that more people disagreed with you than last time.

You mean all the repubs who voted for Blair?

Exactly.

yes, because he's not an uber progressive.

BUT my spouse and I voted for Blair, and Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

I'm laughing that your candidate spent a combined $10 million to lose two elections to an elderly hippie socialist. That's pretty awesome.

You really shouldn't be. Leggett won his primaries by huge margins. Not by 35 votes. In 2014 he won by 12,000 votes with three people in the race, Duncan and Andrews, both very well known.

He was unopposed in 2010. But when he first ran in 2006, he won 67% of the vote over Steve Silverman (also well known).

Elrich should really deeply reflect on why half the voters really don't want him to continue in a second term.

+1

He also should think about why he only won the 2018 primary by 77 votes and then somehow got even more unpopular this time around.

Elrich did a much better job than I expected, so I actually voted for him in the primary this time.

Elrich won by a smaller number of votes than last time. That means that more people disagreed with you than last time.

You mean all the repubs who voted for Blair?

Exactly.

yes, because he's not an uber progressive.

BUT my spouse and I voted for Blair, and Biden.

I’ve never voted Republican in my life and voted Blair.

People declaring him a Republican are self-identifying as extremists.

I sincerely hope that we have some adults in charge over the next 4 years. Hopefully Riemer’s humiliation will change behaviors for CMs that want to govern by Twitter.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

+1honestlu, thanks for the reminder Elrich voters are dumb as rock's

No, we live on the east side of the county (not TP) where developers want to throw up crap dense housing for poorer people.

I didn't want to elect someone funded out of his own pocket (Blair) who would probably throw us to the developer wolves and chase us non wealthy sfh owners out to Frederick. I actually make under 150k, work in in MoCo and want to be able.yo afford to buy a sfh in MoCo.

If anyone pays that much money out of their own pocket to win an election, there is a reason. Hopefully my vote was one of 35.

I'm all for business development in MoCo, but with someone else besides Blair.

Don’t understand the logic: Blair was the only pro-business candidate. When you voted for Erlich you decided for Frederick business growth.

Yes. Which Elrich is fine with. I am bookmarking this thread and will resurrect it when taxes go up and services get cut. People get the government they deserve.

Service cuts won’t happen until later.

The first step is cuts to the Capital budget, so all the infrastructure will deteriorate. Second step is new programs for targeted groups. Third step is to reduce or flatline services to more affluent areas in the county. This will take about 4-5 years to really come to a head before the council will need to make major announced service cuts or even have to face clear choices, like running libraries full time or maintaining sidewalks versus giving millions in non-competive grants to CASA or snowplowing some peoples sidewalks but not others because they are “needy”.

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And after that, he will make a coat out of all the Moco children's puppies! Muah hahahaha!

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Anonymous wrote:And after that, he will make a coat out of all the Moco children's puppies! Muah hahahaha!

I’m not worried about Elrich. I’m worried about the Council. Every CM on Twitter crying about DOT reopening a road in Silver Spring without asking what the people in the adjacent apartments think about it is a CM who cares more about preening for a couple dozen Twitter super users than actually governing for the county as a whole.

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I predict more low income housing in east county where there is already a boat load of low income and section 8 housing. This will lead to even more crime and the already crappy schools will get worse.
Job losses will increase significantly. Immigration will also increase significantly. This will cause an influx of multi family housing to migrate into western Montgomery county and you will soon see those schools and crime follow in the footsteps of east county.
Businesses will close down as people lose jobs and can no longer afford a $50 meal at Pike &Rose.
Our taxes will increase and subsidize ridiculous county pet projects.
All the diversity initiatives will backfire as everyone will be afraid to speak in fear of offending someone. Hate and distrust will increase and cause
self-segregation amongst various racial and ethnic groups.
I moved from Burtonsville after my kids witnessed a kid in their class hit a pregnant teacher. The behavioral issues at these schools is frightening. We now live on n a shithole in bethesda and have to deal with lack of street parking, overcrowded schools and more crime due to several families cramming into similar shitholes. People are getting mean everywhere because we are scared.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. Every time David Blair supporters grasp at "so THERE'S A CHANCE!!!" only to be disappointed, I laugh, gleefully. First you thought Elrich would stay behind in the mail in votes. Then you thought Blair would win with the provisionals. Then you thought the extra ballots found would flip the results to Blair. Now you have all your hopes on the recount. Then, what, you're going to pray for a Hail Mary and a Republican victory in a county that's D+50? More Copium!

You’re laughing that your candidate won a primary by 35 votes? Ok.

+1honestlu, thanks for the reminder Elrich voters are dumb as rock's

No, we live on the east side of the county (not TP) where developers want to throw up crap dense housing for poorer people.

I didn't want to elect someone funded out of his own pocket (Blair) who would probably throw us to the developer wolves and chase us non wealthy sfh owners out to Frederick. I actually make under 150k, work in in MoCo and want to be able.yo afford to buy a sfh in MoCo.

If anyone pays that much money out of their own pocket to win an election, there is a reason. Hopefully my vote was one of 35.

I'm all for business development in MoCo, but with someone else besides Blair.

Don’t understand the logic: Blair was the only pro-business candidate. When you voted for Erlich you decided for Frederick business growth.

Yes. Which Elrich is fine with. I am bookmarking this thread and will resurrect it when taxes go up and services get cut. People get the government they deserve.

Service cuts won’t happen until later.

The first step is cuts to the Capital budget, so all the infrastructure will deteriorate. Second step is new programs for targeted groups. Third step is to reduce or flatline services to more affluent areas in the county. This will take about 4-5 years to really come to a head before the council will need to make major announced service cuts or even have to face clear choices, like running libraries full time or maintaining sidewalks versus giving millions in non-competive grants to CASA or snowplowing some peoples sidewalks but not others because they are “needy”.

It's been happening, and now he can do more. He already cut police services.

He added 10% cost or so to the CIP without really adding anything new. That's for his Net Zero energy sources/infrastructure. Meanwhile, everyone scrambled to delay other projects so that the CIP was balanced. To me, that's de facto cutting the capital budget. How many school projects got delayed to make fiscal room for his Net Zero crap?

There will be no cuts to CASA.
There will be no cuts to fund lawyers for immigrants facing deportation.
There will be no cuts to housing the immigrants being bussed in from Texas.
There will be no cuts to the Green Bank ($18 million a year based on a "temporary tax" that Leggett put in place a decade ago).
There will be no cuts to building the electric fleet, even though they can't afford to replace all the vehicles they need to replace. And "that" will cut services. Or demand emergency appropriations to buy more.

And don't forget, he built this year's budget on one-time federal funds that they won't have anymore. A savings plan later this fiscal year, or sometime next year is almost guaranteed.

Council is to blame too. But they work off of what the CE gives them.

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Folks, don’t overthink it. The vast majority of Elrich’s voters stuck with him because they felt like things were basically fine in MoCo and didn’t see any reason to change course. That’s it.