Anyone else think Brittany Grenere is guilty

Anonymous
She should not get any better treatment that other US prisoners in Russia get.
She pled guilty. So, as to OP's question - yes, I think she is guilty.
She probably thought with her fame, nothing would happen to her if she got caught. Very definition of entitlement.

Meanwhile, we have Paul Whelan who has been detained in Russia for 3 years, falsely accused of espionage. Of course, he isn't a celebrity.
His sister expressed outrage at the attention Griner is getting.... and ultimately, that prompted Biden to call the Whelan family.
https://godanriver.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/biden-speaks-to-sister-of-us-executive-detained-in-russia/article_c06f69f7-2b81-5cda-a50d-1baabc2645c5.html

Moral of the story: Don't travel to countries like Russia or China or other countries run by dictators who have no regard for human rights or human life.
You can do nothing wrong and still end up in their prison as a bargaining chip.
Anonymous
She is definitely guilty, have to follow the law of the country you are in. Now she only had .7 grams of cannabis oil which is almost nothing. 10 years is a max sentence, if they give her that then it is wrong and purely as a negotiation move. If she gets a year or less then that likely makes sense, she’s already served like 4 months.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah I think she’s guilty, and I think the government should make reasonable efforts to retrieve her.


Bringing drugs into countries is illegal and if you're caught bringing them in, or taking drugs out, your goose is caught. She chose to do something that she knew would have significant consequences if caught. The US president should not intervene on her behalf.


Now do Otto Warmbier.


Truth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She is definitely guilty, have to follow the law of the country you are in. Now she only had .7 grams of cannabis oil which is almost nothing. 10 years is a max sentence, if they give her that then it is wrong and purely as a negotiation move. If she gets a year or less then that likely makes sense, she’s already served like 4 months.


The typical charge in Russia with this amount is only a fine. Now she is a foreigner and was transporting it on a plane, both of which up the seriousness of the charge. Time served seems like plenty based on their laws. Something under a year is still a lot but not totally out of bounds.
Anonymous
The Russians are saying they’ll trade her for Victor Bout.
That’s bananas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Russians are saying they’ll trade her for Victor Bout.
That’s bananas.


It’s gonna happen. Clyburn gave the word.
Anonymous
Can’t imagine believing the Russians that she even did what she is accused of.
Anonymous
Doesn’t matter.

If not that, they would have found something else or planted it. Russia wants to trade some of their spies back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Russians are saying they’ll trade her for Victor Bout.
That’s bananas.


It’s gonna happen. Clyburn gave the word.


NP but if that happens that is a terrible decision both politically for the democrats and morally. Victor Bout needs to serve his entire sentence for the atrocities he committed all over Africa.
Anonymous
She should be extradited home. No question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She is definitely guilty, have to follow the law of the country you are in. Now she only had .7 grams of cannabis oil which is almost nothing. 10 years is a max sentence, if they give her that then it is wrong and purely as a negotiation move. If she gets a year or less then that likely makes sense, she’s already served like 4 months.


If she were a Russian citizen anything under 6 grams would be considered an administrative offense. She'd have to pay a fine but no jail time. Russia is 100% using her as a political pawn. The fact that she is getting harsher treatment than anyone else would have is unjust. To match Russia's "fairness" toward US citizens, maybe the US should do the same thing - start rounding up and incarcerating any Putin-connected Russian citizens in the US for administrative-offense level things like unpaid parking tickets and offer to send them to Russia as prisoner exchange. That would be comparably fair to what Russia is doing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She went there to play basketball and make a heck of a lot more there playing for them than she does for the WNBA, which is an entirely different issue.
But yeah, you can't go to another country and not follow their rules and then when you don't be shocked about consequences.
I'm sorry I don't think she deserves 10 years but that's up to Russia, not us


10 years is typical drug sentence even in the us
Anonymous
I would rather bite and focus his energy on helping innocent people get out of jail here in the United States.
Anonymous
Considering the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, by a significant amount, I guess it's not surprising that letting someone who can't get a fair trial rot in a Russian prison for a minor violation isn't a big deal. Kudos for your moral consistency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is definitely guilty, have to follow the law of the country you are in. Now she only had .7 grams of cannabis oil which is almost nothing. 10 years is a max sentence, if they give her that then it is wrong and purely as a negotiation move. If she gets a year or less then that likely makes sense, she’s already served like 4 months.


If she were a Russian citizen anything under 6 grams would be considered an administrative offense. She'd have to pay a fine but no jail time. Russia is 100% using her as a political pawn. The fact that she is getting harsher treatment than anyone else would have is unjust. To match Russia's "fairness" toward US citizens, maybe the US should do the same thing - start rounding up and incarcerating any Putin-connected Russian citizens in the US for administrative-offense level things like unpaid parking tickets and offer to send them to Russia as prisoner exchange. That would be comparably fair to what Russia is doing.


I’m all for this plan. I just don’t think we should exchange Victor Bout who is a mass murderer, for Britney Griner. Round up some oligarchs, trump up the charges and exchange them for Britney.
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