California "accidentally" releases list of CCP holders

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:.... their names, addresses, phone numbers, genders, birthdays and race.
This came from the AG office.

It is hard to believe that this is accidental. Hope someone sues.


Homes with no one there will obviously be targeted by criminals. They’ll ransack the property until they find the gun. Yay! More ILLEGAL (now) guns across America in the hands of killers.

Why do Democrats seem to assume that the killers will shoot at only Republicans?


Because a public list will deter people from buying guns.

Perhaps the Democrat gun owners who scream for more gun restrictions are embarrassed by their flagrant hypocrisy. Most Republicans who own guns don’t apologize for exercising their Constitutional rights.


Perhaps not.
Anonymous
NBD. Californians do not care about stuff like this.
Anonymous
Doesn’t matter. Google and Meta etc know where you shop, go to get medical services, spend your money, etc. Bezos and Zuckerberg know it all!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t matter. Google and Meta etc know where you shop, go to get medical services, spend your money, etc. Bezos and Zuckerberg know it all!


True. You can buy a list of gun owners that's 99.9% accurate from any of the Big Data marketing companies. They have your IP, physical address, type of phone you use, types of guns you own, the porn you enjoy, etc.

It's all available for a price.
Anonymous
Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?
Anonymous
This isn't a list of gun owners. This is a list of CCP holders. CCP holders are usually extremely responsible, upstanding citizens - former law enforcement, prosecutors, defense attorneys, military, people who transport cash and assets, or work in situations that expose them to harm. You have to pass numerous background checks in order to qualify. I'd be proud to be on this list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This isn't a list of gun owners. This is a list of CCP holders. CCP holders are usually extremely responsible, upstanding citizens - former law enforcement, prosecutors, defense attorneys, military, people who transport cash and assets, or work in situations that expose them to harm. You have to pass numerous background checks in order to qualify. I'd be proud to be on this list.


So now we can whittle the population down further to possibly unarmed, armed but questionable skills and armed but more likely to have skills (CCP).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?


Au contraire. Domestic abuse victims are more likely to find their abusive partners on this list and can flag their name for law enforcement than the scenario you are suggesting.

Red flag laws make gun owners frothing mad because they know a lot of gun owners are loose cannons to begin with. The people drawn to obsessing about firearms already have a couple loose screws.
Anonymous
Criminals don’t typically apply for gun permits.
What utterly stupidity we have on this forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?


What was stopping them before?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?


Au contraire. Domestic abuse victims are more likely to find their abusive partners on this list and can flag their name for law enforcement than the scenario you are suggesting.

Red flag laws make gun owners frothing mad because they know a lot of gun owners are loose cannons to begin with. The people drawn to obsessing about firearms already have a couple loose screws.


Well, there is at least one positive. No one answered whether the CCP info has always been public or if it has been leaked. I may be wrong but I would hope that if it was not public there were good reasons. I’m just not keen on making everything public. Some people are waking up to health info being shared — this has been a concern for a LKNG time now. I mean grocery stores share this info (eg, condom purchase, prenatal type products). There is usually a pro and a con with sharing info, but i think more is less.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This isn't a list of gun owners. This is a list of CCP holders. CCP holders are usually extremely responsible, upstanding citizens - former law enforcement, prosecutors, defense attorneys, military, people who transport cash and assets, or work in situations that expose them to harm. You have to pass numerous background checks in order to qualify. I'd be proud to be on this list.


So, would you want your private information released.... address, phone number, etc?

The leaked info included people’s full names, home addresses, dates of birth, and permit issue dates, as confirmed by a lawyer for the California Rifle and Pistol Association that obtained a copy of the data.

Some personal information of conceal carry license holders is available through a public records request.

Additionally, the data revealed the type of permit one holds and whether the person holding the permit is a judge or a member of law enforcement, the report found.

In Los Angeles County alone, 2,891 people with standard licenses had their information compromised by the leak, The Reload stated.

Initially, this information was available to download on the website by downloading the background information behind the graphics, but it had been updated by Tuesday morning so that any personal information was no longer public. As of the afternoon, the state's database site appeared entirely inactive.

California Rifle and Pistol Association President Chuck Michel was not happy with the leak and said that a lawsuit may be coming.

“Vindictive sore loser bureaucrats have endangered peoples lives and invited conflict by illegally releasing confidential private information,” Michel told The Center Square in a statement. “CRPA is working with several legislators and sheriffs to determine the extent of the damage caused by DOJ’s doxing of law abiding gun owners. Litigation is likely.”



https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/california-leaks-personal-information-of-legal-gun-owners/article_48f8bffe-f724-11ec-831e-3b149171f78a.html


If you think this was accidental, there is some ocean front property in Iowa I can sell you.
Given recent SCOTUS rulings, it is far more likely some pissed off AG employee intentionally put this information out there.

Now, you know why many firearms owners do not want the government keeping a list of registered firearms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?


Au contraire. Domestic abuse victims are more likely to find their abusive partners on this list and can flag their name for law enforcement than the scenario you are suggesting.

Red flag laws make gun owners frothing mad because they know a lot of gun owners are loose cannons to begin with. The people drawn to obsessing about firearms already have a couple loose screws.


Well, there is at least one positive. No one answered whether the CCP info has always been public or if it has been leaked. I may be wrong but I would hope that if it was not public there were good reasons. I’m just not keen on making everything public. Some people are waking up to health info being shared — this has been a concern for a LKNG time now. I mean grocery stores share this info (eg, condom purchase, prenatal type products). There is usually a pro and a con with sharing info, but i think more is less.


It's not public.

I just posted a link saying that SOME of the information could be accessed via a FOIA request.
I am betting that would NOT include address and phone numbers and other very personal info.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any of you feel sorry for our sisters in California that escaped a violent relationship, and have a crazy ex who can now hunt them down at night, and finish them off?


What was stopping them before?

When domestic abuse victims escape their abusers, they don’t broadcast their new address. Duh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Don’t see why this is a problem.


Basically. They just released a list of people that are armed.

Criminals casing houses now have a list of spots to avoid. Any residence not on the list now has a bright green sign above it that says “best odds— come on in!”
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