California "accidentally" releases list of CCP holders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Doubt this list will make any difference one way or another. Lots of people who are not CCW have guns at home. Lots.

It was unauthorized and not public information. So, yes... it makes a difference.

And, it was much larger than initially reported.

The California Department of Justice on Wednesday acknowledged the agency wrongly made public the personal information of perhaps hundreds of thousands of gun owners in up to six state-operated databases, a broader exposure than the agency initially disclosed a day earlier.

Rob Bonta, the Democrat who heads the agency and is running for reelection in November, said he was “deeply disturbed and angered” by the failure to protect the information his department is entrusted to keep. He ordered an investigation and promised to fix any problems.

“This unauthorized release of personal information is unacceptable and falls far short of my expectations for this department,” he said.

The California Rifle and Pistol Association noted that the release came days after the U.S. Supreme Court threw out New York’s requirement that those seeking to carry concealed weapons provide a reason. That also derailed California’s similar requirement, though state lawmakers and Bonta are working to impose new requirements.

The association said the “unconscionable” release included information on law enforcement officials including judges, as well as others who had sought permits “like rape and domestic violence victims.”

Names, dates of birth, gender, race, driver’s license numbers, addresses and criminal histories were exposed for people who were granted or denied permits to carry concealed weapons between 2011 and 2021, the department said.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/california/personal-info-on-california-gun-owners-wrongly-made-public/2932963/

“It is infuriating that people who have been complying with the law have been put at risk by this breach,” said the Butte county sheriff, Kory Honea, the president of the California State Sheriffs’ Association, adding that sheriffs were concerned about potential risks to permit holders.

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Bonta pledged to “take strong corrective measures where necessary” in response to the exposure.

“The California department of justice is entrusted to protect Californians and their data. We acknowledge the stress this may cause those individuals whose information was exposed,” Bonta said.

The department plans to notify those affected by the breach, he said, and provide credit monitoring services.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/30/california-gun-owners-data-breach

I suspect fewer California gun owners will continue to follow their gun laws, especially Progressives. They aren’t supposed to have guns. Not all of them can afford to hire armed personal security.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m Pro 2A, and will vehemently defend the right to own the same exact rifles that law enforcement / the military has because that is the spirit of the constitution. However, I don’t see how the constitution protects the right to conceal carry. 2A is about using your guns against the government should the government become tyrannical and the people need to band together and fight — everyone has a right to die on their two feet fighting according to the founders.

I really don’t see what 2a has to do with owning guns for protecting against criminals in public, or hunting, or anything else.

Well, owning guns to defend against the possibility of a tyrannical government made sense when all anyone had was a musket. Now the tyrannical government would have automatic weapons, tanks, bombs, missiles, fighter planes, nuclear weapons, etc., so I don’t think you are defending against them with a few rifles and pistols.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m Pro 2A, and will vehemently defend the right to own the same exact rifles that law enforcement / the military has because that is the spirit of the constitution. However, I don’t see how the constitution protects the right to conceal carry. 2A is about using your guns against the government should the government become tyrannical and the people need to band together and fight — everyone has a right to die on their two feet fighting according to the founders.

I really don’t see what 2a has to do with owning guns for protecting against criminals in public, or hunting, or anything else.

Well, owning guns to defend against the possibility of a tyrannical government made sense when all anyone had was a musket. Now the tyrannical government would have automatic weapons, tanks, bombs, missiles, fighter planes, nuclear weapons, etc., so I don’t think you are defending against them with a few rifles and pistols.

Unless you live in Afghanistan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't a list of gun owners. This is a list of CCP holders. CCP holders are usually extremely responsible, upstanding citizens - former law enforcement, prosecutors, defense attorneys, military, people who transport cash and assets, or work in situations that expose them to harm. You have to pass numerous background checks in order to qualify. I'd be proud to be on this list.

[Anonymous]

2A is about using your guns against the government should the government become tyrannical and the people need to band together and fight — everyone has a right to die on their two feet fighting according to the founders.

No better time than the present.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Los Angeles and this didn’t even make our local news.

No one cares.

No one cared when it happened here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t see why this is a problem.

Me either. Now I know who’s homes to break into to steal guns!!!!

Thanks CA DOJ!!!

Signed,

Any criminal with internet access

There were no criminals breaking in to home here to steal guns after Va released the info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m Pro 2A, and will vehemently defend the right to own the same exact rifles that law enforcement / the military has because that is the spirit of the constitution. However, I don’t see how the constitution protects the right to conceal carry. 2A is about using your guns against the government should the government become tyrannical and the people need to band together and fight — everyone has a right to die on their two feet fighting according to the founders.

I really don’t see what 2a has to do with owning guns for protecting against criminals in public, or hunting, or anything else.

Well, owning guns to defend against the possibility of a tyrannical government made sense when all anyone had was a musket. Now the tyrannical government would have automatic weapons, tanks, bombs, missiles, fighter planes, nuclear weapons, etc., so I don’t think you are defending against them with a few rifles and pistols.

Unless you live in Afghanistan.

Does Afghanistan have a Second Amendment?

[Anonymous]

This isn't a list of gun owners. This is a list of CCP holders. CCP holders are usually extremely responsible, upstanding citizens - former law enforcement, prosecutors, defense attorneys, military, people who transport cash and assets, or work in situations that expose them to harm. You have to pass numerous background checks in order to qualify. I'd be proud to be on this list.

Oh BS.
I've known a lot of sketchy people who were CCP holders. Including some who were approved as CCP holders who I know for a fact have criminal histories including assault. One of them currently has an outstanding warrant.

The process was run by local sheriffs and was complete crap.