Per ATL: Yale & Harvard Law No Longer T14
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Anonymous
In top of counting clerkships as a “quality job,” they also add another 5% of the score for Supreme Court Clerkships and federal judgeships: SCOTUS CLERK & FEDERAL JUDGESHIP SCORES (5% EACH) Though obviously applicable to very different stages of legal careers, these two categories represent the pinnacles of the profession. For the purposes of these rankings, we simply looked at a school's graduates as a percentage of (1) all U.S. Supreme Court clerks (since 2017) and (2) currently sitting Article III judges. Both scores are adjusted for the size of the school. Obviously, we are aware that for the vast majority of students, Supreme Court clerkships or the federal bench are simply not prospects. But for the students who do want to be judges and academics, this outcome represents a useful separating factor for the most elite schools. Some schools put you in robes, others can't. |
Anonymous
Yes. But clerkships were counted at a lower percentage of the total than regular jobs. |
Anonymous
The methodology is the same. That is why it is interesting. |
Anonymous
Why would this have changed over the past year? This has always been the case, but the methodology used is the same as the past years. |
Anonymous
ALL clerkships count as a “quality job” and count in the 35% weight for that category. So, clerkships (in whatever court) count the same as a Big Law job. SCOTUS clerkships (and judgeships) get an additional 5% weight. This is to the benefit of Yale & Harvard, who tend to have a higher proportion of SCOTUS clerks and judges. |
Anonymous
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In my experience, both private sector and high-ranking government, for Yale this isn’t a surprise. I don’t know what it is, but for some reason Yale grads seem unequipped for real world law jobs. Harvard/Stanford doesn’t make sense to me.
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Anonymous
| This ROI ranking approach is ridiculous. If it applied to DMV schools, only publics would do well (Very little “I” in the ROI) vs. the most expensive privates. And what about the people getting close to full rides at HLS and YLS? |
Anonymous
Here's top 25. 
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Anonymous
A win for Catholic law schools -- BC and ND up...ND passes Yale and Harvard. Gotta love it. |
Anonymous
THIS. They have shown who they are. Avoid. |
Anonymous
+1! |
Anonymous
Well, it does when you take into account David Lat when to Yale - hence Yale’s position just above the cut-off -and he then puts rivals Stanford and Harvard much lower |
Anonymous
I’m not a lawyer (I have a PhD and am idly clicking through recent topics), but even I know a Harvard law grad/Yale PhD who is a prof at Northwestern in IP law (not sure if Northwestern counts as a top law school though?). The pay was reportedly not big-law amazing, but (from the outside) it appears to be a really sweet gig. |
Anonymous
Davis Lat is no longer associated with ATL. |
Anonymous
Meant to add — and he’s been very critical of Yale Law as of late. |