Giant increase in annual registration fees for giant vehicles in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

It’s actually quite funny to watch from the suburbs, with their upper-middle class vapors regulating others behavior like an 1980s suburban HOA. It’s honestly funny as hell.

It turns out that it’s not the suburbs that are toxic, it’s just these people and I hope like hell they stay in the city and out of my neighborhood.

It’s pretty interesting to see that that it’s people that are the problem and not the built environment. These people grew up in the suburbs with white flight values and they blamed the suburban built environment for their problems. But lo and behold, look at how they have brought their culture to the cities.

It’s absolutely insane. Like entire premises of academic study and culture are being upended because we’re finding out that it’s all just been projection.

These peoples misery has nothing to do with cars and density and everything to do with who they are and how they behave.

30 years ago in the suburbs they were trying to get make neighbors like them so uncomfortable that they would move. Here they have moved to the city and they are doing it all over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kind of vehicles are we talking about? Minivans? F150s? I have a family of 5 plus my mom lives with us. We don’t fit in a 5 seater.

Any vehicle over 3500 lbs pays 240% the registration fee and it escalates much higher from there.

The 2023 budget the D.C. Council approved includes a provision that raises the annual registration fee for most vehicles. The provision would take effect in 2024.

Owners of vehicles that weigh more than 6,000 pounds will have to pay $500 per year. That's more than triple the $155 that those owners currently pay.

Fees will jump from $155 to $250 for vehicles that are more than 5,000 pounds.
Vehicles weighing between 3,500 and 5,000 pounds will go from $115 to $175.

D.C. will not raise the $72 fee, however, for cars weighing 3,500 pounds or less.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-vehicle-registration-will-more-than-triple-for-some-suvs-trucks-by-2024/3063961/

Lol oh look more crazy right wing lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

It’s actually quite funny to watch from the suburbs, with their upper-middle class vapors regulating others behavior like an 1980s suburban HOA. It’s honestly funny as hell.

It turns out that it’s not the suburbs that are toxic, it’s just these people and I hope like hell they stay in the city and out of my neighborhood.

It’s pretty interesting to see that that it’s people that are the problem and not the built environment. These people grew up in the suburbs with white flight values and they blamed the suburban built environment for their problems. But lo and behold, look at how they have brought their culture to the cities.

It’s absolutely insane. Like entire premises of academic study and culture are being upended because we’re finding out that it’s all just been projection.

These peoples misery has nothing to do with cars and density and everything to do with who they are and how they behave.

30 years ago in the suburbs they were trying to get make neighbors like them so uncomfortable that they would move. Here they have moved to the city and they are doing it all over again.

seems like you absolutely can’t stand change of any type.

heavier vehicles are more dangerous and generally take up more space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

It’s actually quite funny to watch from the suburbs, with their upper-middle class vapors regulating others behavior like an 1980s suburban HOA. It’s honestly funny as hell.

It turns out that it’s not the suburbs that are toxic, it’s just these people and I hope like hell they stay in the city and out of my neighborhood.

It’s pretty interesting to see that that it’s people that are the problem and not the built environment. These people grew up in the suburbs with white flight values and they blamed the suburban built environment for their problems. But lo and behold, look at how they have brought their culture to the cities.

It’s absolutely insane. Like entire premises of academic study and culture are being upended because we’re finding out that it’s all just been projection.

These peoples misery has nothing to do with cars and density and everything to do with who they are and how they behave.

30 years ago in the suburbs they were trying to get make neighbors like them so uncomfortable that they would move. Here they have moved to the city and they are doing it all over again.

seems like you absolutely can’t stand change of any type.

heavier vehicles are more dangerous and generally take up more space.

I agree with you. Heavier vehicles are more dangerous, which is why all those supremely heavy Tesla EVs get an exemption while much lighter light-duty trucks get punished.

Or did I miss something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

A Nissan Leaf is 3500 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 is 4200 lbs. The Tesla should be taxed more but it’s not because of the 1,000 lb EV exception, which is just a death subsidy for rich EV drivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

A Nissan Leaf is 3500 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 is 4200 lbs. The Tesla should be taxed more but it’s not because of the 1,000 lb EV exception, which is just a death subsidy for rich EV drivers.

NP. Depending on trim a Nissan Leaf has a curb weight between 3,512 and 3,934 pounds. The Model 3 is between 3,557 and 4,180. They're in the same weight range and either could be taxed at either side of the 3,600 pound rate if there wasn't the 1,000 pound exception for EVs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The white liberal’s goal for DC is to ensure that the city exists as a complete projection and reflection of themselves, their culture, their class interests and aesthetic.

It’s truly remarkable to see people claim a mantle of “vibrant urbanism” in service of turning the city into a suburban enclave.

It's more remarkable to see someone defending their massive Suburban as some kind of necessary non-white transportation imperative? Does your own version of vibrant urbanism revolve around a Suburban or a Tahoe? How odd, and weirdly specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

A Nissan Leaf is 3500 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 is 4200 lbs. The Tesla should be taxed more but it’s not because of the 1,000 lb EV exception, which is just a death subsidy for rich EV drivers.

What's more dangerous are tall vehicles. Leaf and Tesla both have good pedestrian visibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

A Nissan Leaf is 3500 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 is 4200 lbs. The Tesla should be taxed more but it’s not because of the 1,000 lb EV exception, which is just a death subsidy for rich EV drivers.

NP. Depending on trim a Nissan Leaf has a curb weight between 3,512 and 3,934 pounds. The Model 3 is between 3,557 and 4,180. They're in the same weight range and either could be taxed at either side of the 3,600 pound rate if there wasn't the 1,000 pound exception for EVs.

So what you are saying is that the lightest EV is the same weight as the lightest truck and yet one is taxed 240% of the other based on bias?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Isn't unbelievable how hard it is for the liberal elite to understand this? They just keep coming on here claiming, not true. When it just is true. So small minded and elitist.

You understand that just because you say something is “true” that doesn’t mean it is, right? It is still just an opinion, even if it’s yours. You just sound angry and any argument you might have is lost in name calling and ranting.

Um, what they were complaining about wasn't an opinion. It was a fact. What % is the proposed increase.

They want all trucks to pay at least 240% more than a typical car because they are trucks and then want to give special breaks to Tesla owners.

If the purpose of the tax is supposedly for safety, they shouldn’t have a Tesla exception. They should instead be using the tax to encourage DC residents to buy Nissan Leafs.

But this is this is where they show that it’s not about safety and all about using the tax code to punish working class people because they want to get them out of the city.

There is a specific carve out for Telsas and not electric vehicles in general? Yeah, that's a problem.

A Nissan Leaf is 3500 lbs. A Tesla Model 3 is 4200 lbs. The Tesla should be taxed more but it’s not because of the 1,000 lb EV exception, which is just a death subsidy for rich EV drivers.

What's more dangerous are tall vehicles. Leaf and Tesla both have good pedestrian visibility.

Then why isn't that tax based on ground clearance or bumper height?

[Anonymous]

Public policy interest in encouraging adoption of electric vehicles and a move away from gas-powered vehicles. Classic use of the power of the purse to drive behavior.