Giant increase in annual registration fees for giant vehicles in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this article about DC moving to increase vehicle registration fees pretty dramatically for very large vehicles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-26/a-new-way-to-curb-the-rise-of-oversized-pickups-and-suvs

The article posits that this change will improve pedestrian and cyclist safety, and reduce pollution, but it may also account for the increased wear on the roads caused by heavy vehicles. I think I'm OK with this proposed change, but of course I don't have a vehicle that would be covered by the new rules.

This is how petty tyrants rule, by taxing out of existence things that personally displease them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My neighbor needs his for work. About twice a year. For the most part I carry more on my bike than he carries in his monster truck.

Oversized trucks with super high suspensions are not necessary on city streets and they pose a unique hazard: their bumpers are not aligned with other car bumpers, so fender benders turn into serious accidents for the people they hit or who hit them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this article about DC moving to increase vehicle registration fees pretty dramatically for very large vehicles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-26/a-new-way-to-curb-the-rise-of-oversized-pickups-and-suvs

The article posits that this change will improve pedestrian and cyclist safety, and reduce pollution, but it may also account for the increased wear on the roads caused by heavy vehicles. I think I'm OK with this proposed change, but of course I don't have a vehicle that would be covered by the new rules.

This is how petty tyrants rule, by taxing out of existence things that personally displease them.

Go back to school and learn what an externality is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Oh please. Lets not.pretend the working poor can afford those tricked out Denalis and Escalades.

The Ford F-250, which is cited in the article and certainly no one’s definition of “tricked out” retails at a base model for $41,485.

The fact that you lie to cover up what you are doing speaks to the fact that you know it’s wrong. Otherwise you wouldn’t be lying about it.

Other vehicles over 6,000 pounds include the Ford Explorer and the Honda Odyssey.

Every thing that liberals like Cheh and her supporters like you do hates middle class families. The fact that you lie about is the icing on the cake.

Yeah no. The Odyssey is around 4000 lbs. I checked.

Gross vehicle weight is over 6000 lbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this article about DC moving to increase vehicle registration fees pretty dramatically for very large vehicles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-26/a-new-way-to-curb-the-rise-of-oversized-pickups-and-suvs

The article posits that this change will improve pedestrian and cyclist safety, and reduce pollution, but it may also account for the increased wear on the roads caused by heavy vehicles. I think I'm OK with this proposed change, but of course I don't have a vehicle that would be covered by the new rules.

This is how petty tyrants rule, by taxing out of existence things that personally displease them.

Go back to school and learn what an externality is.

Sure. And you can move back into your parents basement anytime.

[Anonymous]

This is obviously a premeditated and direct, classist attack on working class people in the city.

The fees are designed to ramp up quickly after 3500 lbs. The lightest truck on the market is the Ford Maverick which has a curb weight of 3600 lbs. That truck also only costs about $20k.

The fact then that they carve out an exception for heavy electric cars that cause much more wear and tear on roads and are much more dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians shows exactly what this is about.

It’s not about safety. It’s preening class privilege. It’s a policy designed to be hostile to working class people because some folks apparently only want to live around their own class and then will tolerate a lower class of service workers that serve them. Sort of like the old English estates. DC wants to be the city-sized, modern Downton Abbey.

PG County will gladly take all your blue collar workers. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Oh please. Lets not.pretend the working poor can afford those tricked out Denalis and Escalades.

The Ford F-250, which is cited in the article and certainly no one’s definition of “tricked out” retails at a base model for $41,485.

The fact that you lie to cover up what you are doing speaks to the fact that you know it’s wrong. Otherwise you wouldn’t be lying about it.

Other vehicles over 6,000 pounds include the Ford Explorer and the Honda Odyssey.

Every thing that liberals like Cheh and her supporters like you do hates middle class families. The fact that you lie about is the icing on the cake.

Yeah no. The Odyssey is around 4000 lbs. I checked.

Gross vehicle weight is over 6000 lbs.

Cite for the GVW? Which weight is used in the bill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is obviously a premeditated and direct, classist attack on working class people in the city.

The fees are designed to ramp up quickly after 3500 lbs. The lightest truck on the market is the Ford Maverick which has a curb weight of 3600 lbs. That truck also only costs about $20k.

The fact then that they carve out an exception for heavy electric cars that cause much more wear and tear on roads and are much more dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians shows exactly what this is about.

It’s not about safety. It’s preening class privilege. It’s a policy designed to be hostile to working class people because some folks apparently only want to live around their own class and then will tolerate a lower class of service workers that serve them. Sort of like the old English estates. DC wants to be the city-sized, modern Downton Abbey.

PG County will gladly take all your blue collar workers. Thanks.

How are EVs more dangerous?

[Anonymous]

What kind of vehicles are we talking about? Minivans? F150s? I have a family of 5 plus my mom lives with us. We don’t fit in a 5 seater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is obviously a premeditated and direct, classist attack on working class people in the city.

The fees are designed to ramp up quickly after 3500 lbs. The lightest truck on the market is the Ford Maverick which has a curb weight of 3600 lbs. That truck also only costs about $20k.

The fact then that they carve out an exception for heavy electric cars that cause much more wear and tear on roads and are much more dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians shows exactly what this is about.

It’s not about safety. It’s preening class privilege. It’s a policy designed to be hostile to working class people because some folks apparently only want to live around their own class and then will tolerate a lower class of service workers that serve them. Sort of like the old English estates. DC wants to be the city-sized, modern Downton Abbey.

PG County will gladly take all your blue collar workers. Thanks.

How are EVs more dangerous?

Your question is how a 5,400 lbs vehicle more dangerous than a 3,600 lbs vehicle? Is that what your asking? Because I want to make sure that I understand the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is obviously a premeditated and direct, classist attack on working class people in the city.

The fees are designed to ramp up quickly after 3500 lbs. The lightest truck on the market is the Ford Maverick which has a curb weight of 3600 lbs. That truck also only costs about $20k.

The fact then that they carve out an exception for heavy electric cars that cause much more wear and tear on roads and are much more dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians shows exactly what this is about.

It’s not about safety. It’s preening class privilege. It’s a policy designed to be hostile to working class people because some folks apparently only want to live around their own class and then will tolerate a lower class of service workers that serve them. Sort of like the old English estates. DC wants to be the city-sized, modern Downton Abbey.

PG County will gladly take all your blue collar workers. Thanks.

How are EVs more dangerous?

Your question is how a 5,400 lbs vehicle more dangerous than a 3,600 lbs vehicle? Is that what your asking? Because I want to make sure that I understand the question.

So you are saying the heavy trucks are more dangerous? The ones you want on the roads? Just trying to clarify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of vehicles are we talking about? Minivans? F150s? I have a family of 5 plus my mom lives with us. We don’t fit in a 5 seater.

Any vehicle over 3500 lbs pays 240% the registration fee and it escalates much higher from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kind of vehicles are we talking about? Minivans? F150s? I have a family of 5 plus my mom lives with us. We don’t fit in a 5 seater.

Then your vehicle will be heavily overtaxed. Welcome to racist, classist, elitist politics in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This won't affect the rich and wealthy as DC would like to so righteously pompous proclaim. This will only affect small businesses, large families and those who use their large cars for Uber/Lyft purposes. Thus, affecting the poor. DC is so self-righteously stupid, that's it's hard to watch from suburban sidelines.

Oh please. Lets not.pretend the working poor can afford those tricked out Denalis and Escalades.

The Ford F-250, which is cited in the article and certainly no one’s definition of “tricked out” retails at a base model for $41,485.

The fact that you lie to cover up what you are doing speaks to the fact that you know it’s wrong. Otherwise you wouldn’t be lying about it.

Other vehicles over 6,000 pounds include the Ford Explorer and the Honda Odyssey.

Every thing that liberals like Cheh and her supporters like you do hates middle class families. The fact that you lie about is the icing on the cake.

Yeah no. The Odyssey is around 4000 lbs. I checked.

Gross vehicle weight is over 6000 lbs.

Cite for the GVW? Which weight is used in the bill?

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[Anonymous]

Thankfully drivers with $20K in moving violations can still drive. 🥹