What percentage of men cheat?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll never forgot the first time I (then a young, single, and attractive though not gorgeous woman) attended my first professional conference. The amount of attention I received from married men was astounding. They were not shy at all! If I wanted to, I could have had a ONS with a different married man every night of the week.

So I think the percentage is very high among married men who travel for work and get to stay at nice hotels paid for by their employers, hundreds of miles away from their wives.

I had that experience as a 25-year old in a Fed agency in DC. In the Office.

That said, in my 52 years I have never had sex with a married man or cheated. Even with the countless opportunities thrown at me throughout my life.

I’m not a home wrecker and cheating is morally wrong. I think people that cheat are scumbags.

PP here. I’m a lawyer. I don’t do ONS (or married men) so I never partook, but other people must, because these guys were so brazen about it.

NP here. Totally brazen. Even the ones as a naive younger woman would think he was a morally straight and upstanding family man, he still propositioned me.

I would guess 50-75% of men cheat but the only reason the number isn't higher is that the other 25% try and fail or don't have the opportunity

This is cynical, but I agree. There was a similar thread awhile back where I shared my experiences attending professional conferences as a young, single woman (lawyer PP here) and a bunch of smug posters jumped all over my posts like "well MY husband would NEVER")... and sure, #notallmen, but trust and believe that a good number of these guys were behaving badly, because when everybody else is doing it and your wife is a hundred miles away, who's going to tattle on you?

[Anonymous]

I think it is a higher proportion than you would think. There are men who have cheated and never breathed a word of it. And if you get married in your late 20s or early 30s, 40 or 50 years can be a long time to be faithful.

Men have strong biological imperatives. Add in a few drinks, a marriage that has lost its spark...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DNA testing kits are showing that women actually cheat at a higher rate than previously believed. Even at a higher rate than men. It's much easier for a woman to cheat

Mathis makes no sense. For that to happen they would also have to be raising the interloper children as their husbands and of course the rate of that being shown by genetics will be higher than the known or admitted rate without it but that doesn’t mean it’s super common. Cheating is one thing passing off a child as someone else’s is another.

[Anonymous]

I think almost 100% would cheat if they had the chance and weren't afraid of getting caught. As it is I would guess that probably 75% of American men cheat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll never forgot the first time I (then a young, single, and attractive though not gorgeous woman) attended my first professional conference. The amount of attention I received from married men was astounding. They were not shy at all! If I wanted to, I could have had a ONS with a different married man every night of the week.

So I think the percentage is very high among married men who travel for work and get to stay at nice hotels paid for by their employers, hundreds of miles away from their wives.

I had that experience as a 25-year old in a Fed agency in DC. In the Office.

That said, in my 52 years I have never had sex with a married man or cheated. Even with the countless opportunities thrown at me throughout my life.

I’m not a home wrecker and cheating is morally wrong. I think people that cheat are scumbags.

PP here. I’m a lawyer. I don’t do ONS (or married men) so I never partook, but other people must, because these guys were so brazen about it.

NP here. Totally brazen. Even the ones as a naive younger woman would think he was a morally straight and upstanding family man, he still propositioned me.

I would guess 50-75% of men cheat but the only reason the number isn't higher is that the other 25% try and fail or don't have the opportunity

This is cynical, but I agree. There was a similar thread awhile back where I shared my experiences attending professional conferences as a young, single woman (lawyer PP here) and a bunch of smug posters jumped all over my posts like "well MY husband would NEVER")... and sure, #notallmen, but trust and believe that a good number of these guys were behaving badly, because when everybody else is doing it and your wife is a hundred miles away, who's going to tattle on you?

So I wonder if this is also based on professions as well. It seems like this is quite common in law based on this and other threads. Again, it’s your frame of reference and who you’re around that will determine your perception on the percentages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been overseas for the past 14 years, including in Eastern Europe. It has been really depressing to see how many men do cheat when presented with the option. The scenarios I have seen most often is when the man’s job takes a family overseas and the wife becomes a “trailing spouse” who doesn’t work and becomes uniquely dependent on the husband for socialisation, etc, changing the dynamic of their relationship. Meanwhile, the husband is suddenly in a community where he is treated as more successful and handsome than he actually was considered at home, and scores of young, beautiful local women are throwing themselves at him, actively seeking an American man and prepared to break up his marriage to get him. OR the man arrives alone for a shorter assignment, with wife and kids back home, and succumbs to one of the young women this way.

We estimated that about 75% of expat men cheat, either discretely or in a way that blows apart their marriage.

So I’m assuming that this percentage reflects the approximate proportion of men who WOULD cheat if put into the similar circumstances.

This was the case in my marriage. I was a trailing spouse to my ex, little kids at home, very isolated, and he cheated. I would NEVER recommend this arrangement.

[Anonymous]

in the same vein as the PP above who got hit on by men at a work conference, I have gotten approached by women while overseas on business. Usually at the gym (early morning workouts helps with jet lag), and typically after I've finished lifting. I wear my wedding ring, have my ear buds in and don't pay attention to anyone unless they're using equipment/machine that I was going to use.

Other times, at the hotel bar, while I'm having a drink waiting for colleagues to arrive. The approach is subtle smooth - much more than anything I had tried in my younger days. But it's pretty obvious what's going on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The DNA testing kits are showing that women actually cheat at a higher rate than previously believed. Even at a higher rate than men. It's much easier for a woman to cheat

Mathis makes no sense. For that to happen they would also have to be raising the interloper children as their husbands and of course the rate of that being shown by genetics will be higher than the known or admitted rate without it but that doesn’t mean it’s super common. Cheating is one thing passing off a child as someone else’s is another.

Widespread DNA testing is indeed showing widespread “interloper insemination;” thus: women cheated at a much higher rate than previously known.

But that data largely stems from a time when birth control (specifically- widespread use of the pill in the 70s), became ubiquitous.

Women over the last 30 years are smarter about “covering their tracks” and using BC for their ONS on business trips. But they know:

- what happens on the business trip, stays on the business trip.

They are cheating just as much as before, if not more, these days.

[Anonymous]

Further adding to the rate of women cheating:

- far more of them cheat with other women, than ever before in the West.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in the same vein as the PP above who got hit on by men at a work conference, I have gotten approached by women while overseas on business. Usually at the gym (early morning workouts helps with jet lag), and typically after I've finished lifting. I wear my wedding ring, have my ear buds in and don't pay attention to anyone unless they're using equipment/machine that I was going to use.

Other times, at the hotel bar, while I'm having a drink waiting for colleagues to arrive. The approach is subtle smooth - much more than anything I had tried in my younger days. But it's pretty obvious what's going on.

Did you ever cheat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the same vein as the PP above who got hit on by men at a work conference, I have gotten approached by women while overseas on business. Usually at the gym (early morning workouts helps with jet lag), and typically after I've finished lifting. I wear my wedding ring, have my ear buds in and don't pay attention to anyone unless they're using equipment/machine that I was going to use.

Other times, at the hotel bar, while I'm having a drink waiting for colleagues to arrive. The approach is subtle smooth - much more than anything I had tried in my younger days. But it's pretty obvious what's going on.

Did you ever cheat?

PP to whom you posed the question - no, never cheated. I was approached quite often but I'm just old fashioned I guess in that I love my wife dearly and am 100% committed to her and our marriage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DNA testing kits are showing that women actually cheat at a higher rate than previously believed. Even at a higher rate than men. It's much easier for a woman to cheat

Mathis makes no sense. For that to happen they would also have to be raising the interloper children as their husbands and of course the rate of that being shown by genetics will be higher than the known or admitted rate without it but that doesn’t mean it’s super common. Cheating is one thing passing off a child as someone else’s is another.

Widespread DNA testing is indeed showing widespread “interloper insemination;” thus: women cheated at a much higher rate than previously known.

But that data largely stems from a time when birth control (specifically- widespread use of the pill in the 70s), became ubiquitous.

Women over the last 30 years are smarter about “covering their tracks” and using BC for their ONS on business trips. But they know:

- what happens on the business trip, stays on the business trip.

They are cheating just as much as before, if not more, these days.

I have no doubt women cheat at the same rate as men.

[Anonymous]

Enough that I'll never re-marry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DNA testing kits are showing that women actually cheat at a higher rate than previously believed. Even at a higher rate than men. It's much easier for a woman to cheat

Mathis makes no sense. For that to happen they would also have to be raising the interloper children as their husbands and of course the rate of that being shown by genetics will be higher than the known or admitted rate without it but that doesn’t mean it’s super common. Cheating is one thing passing off a child as someone else’s is another.

Widespread DNA testing is indeed showing widespread “interloper insemination;” thus: women cheated at a much higher rate than previously known.

But that data largely stems from a time when birth control (specifically- widespread use of the pill in the 70s), became ubiquitous.

Women over the last 30 years are smarter about “covering their tracks” and using BC for their ONS on business trips. But they know:

- what happens on the business trip, stays on the business trip.

They are cheating just as much as before, if not more, these days.

I have no doubt women cheat at the same rate as men.

Due to the Internet and smart phones they are now cheating at the same and slightly higher rates in some age groups. They no longer have to leave the house to find sex/Ap and since more don’t work, once kids are school age they have a lot more free time. This was a huge change for cheating: technology and the ease of finding someone.

Studies show they are also better at hiding it than men, presumably because they have more at stake if they get caught.

[Anonymous]

21% of men and 13% of women have cheated at some point in their life (https://www.colorado.edu/asmagazine/2018/04/04/extramarital-sex-partners-likely-be-close-friends-and-men-are-more-apt-cheat)