The Movie Star and Me - supposedly about Jake Gyllenhaal

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

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23 year olds are supposed be naive and make mistakes. You know who’s supposed to know better? Mentors who hire interns, directors who allow interns on set…and of course 35 year old men, but lord knows we’d never hold men to that standard, so by all means, let’s keep focusing on HER choices.

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Oh, and I have to give him the teensiest bit of credit for dropping her once he found out she was actually an innocent. He didn’t completely, but definitely in a sexual way. Some men would have seduced her still. He is an asshole, but not THAT much of an asshole.

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

From the mentor when he was laying on her shoulder:”You are our good look charm. Don’t move!!!” From the president of the theater: “Go for it! I would if I were you.” Sure, very responsible employees there.

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

From the mentor when he was laying on her shoulder:”You are our good look charm. Don’t move!!!” From the president of the theater: “Go for it! I would if I were you.” Sure, very responsible employees there.

Lots of young women would enjoy having sex with a movie star….just saying, as a former young woman myself who had a few enjoyable ONS back in the day.

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Sounds like she is not taking responsibility for her role in the “relationship?”

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

From the mentor when he was laying on her shoulder:”You are our good look charm. Don’t move!!!” From the president of the theater: “Go for it! I would if I were you.” Sure, very responsible employees there.

Lots of young women would enjoy having sex with a movie star….just saying, as a former young woman myself who had a few enjoyable ONS back in the day.

Ummm I think most would! Are you kidding!

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she is not taking responsibility for her role in the “relationship?”

I think she took a lot of responsibility

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

If she had not reciprocated in a way that was more than flirting, he would have booted her off that gig real quick. And not one person would have lifted a finger to stand up for her in fear for jeopardizing the production. Hence the power imbalance and why the “flirtation” was inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

That was a tedious read.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she is not taking responsibility for her role in the “relationship?”

I think she took a lot of responsibility

No she is trying to act like she was 15 or 16 but she was an adult.
It reads no more interesting than any other obsessive college age girl relationship. Replace “ movie star” with “guy in my philosophy class” or “guy at the office” and it’s the same story. And if the story is real II just see a young woman who has had her first heart break. In a few years she will look back and be embarrassed she wrote this and realize how silly she sounded.

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

If she had not reciprocated in a way that was more than flirting, he would have booted her off that gig real quick. And not one person would have lifted a finger to stand up for her in fear for jeopardizing the production. Hence the power imbalance and why the “flirtation” was inappropriate.

Would he? Really the only thing that strikes me as more than heavy young person flirting is the oral sex episode, and that backed him off quick when he realized how vulnerable she was.

[Anonymous]

It’s ridiculous that young women just starting out in the world, don’t understand how the world works.
What idiots!

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

If she had not reciprocated in a way that was more than flirting, he would have booted her off that gig real quick. And not one person would have lifted a finger to stand up for her in fear for jeopardizing the production. Hence the power imbalance and why the “flirtation” was inappropriate.

Would he? Really the only thing that strikes me as more than heavy young person flirting is the oral sex episode, and that backed him off quick when he realized how vulnerable she was.

Backed off but did virtually nothing to try to acknowledge her clear anxiety and stress. Or to reciprocate. Ironic considering how he flirted with her to start.

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Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.

Agreed. I think a sleaze will always be a sleaze and most women take a while to figure out which types to avoid, but it's depressing that none of the women in her life cautioned her that he is a type and it's not a good type. Plan to flirt, have fun, and move along, because that's what he's going to do.

I do think the mentor and director tried to do that but were obviously too subtle. They did hint to keep it in perspective/light, but this one needed more than a hint apparently. At 23 you wouldn’t really expect to have to be blunt, though…most people have at least some relationship experience at that age.

OK, but saying “don’t get attached” while pushing them together is basically just offering her up as a toy for him to play with during production. That’s gross.

Flirting is different than having sex. They were egging her on to have a fun flirt, but not more. She chose more.

Now this right here is naive if you think they threw a virgin at a famous actor with his reputation to just flirt.

They warned her not to let it get too far. You are the naive one to pretend you don’t know what THAT means.

If she had not reciprocated in a way that was more than flirting, he would have booted her off that gig real quick. And not one person would have lifted a finger to stand up for her in fear for jeopardizing the production. Hence the power imbalance and why the “flirtation” was inappropriate.

Would he? Really the only thing that strikes me as more than heavy young person flirting is the oral sex episode, and that backed him off quick when he realized how vulnerable she was.

He “backed off” because he got off, knew he could have her, and lost interest.