The Movie Star and Me - supposedly about Jake Gyllenhaal

[Anonymous]

Has anyone read this piece? Based on the timelines and specifics mentioned and a photo with the two of them together on the subway, the internet is saying it has to be JG.

https://medium.com/@domenicamferaud/the-movie-star-and-me-5d711ee661e3

I found this to be really disturbing. And honestly I am someone who thought the TSwift stuff with him was really melodramatic and blown out of proportion. But reading this its like, wow that is just a pattern and he inadvertantly did it to someone with a MUCH larger microphone than even he has. And it really turned me off Maggie Gyllenhaal too.

[Anonymous]

I think I’m way too old, because I just don’t see much here besides a bad romance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I’m way too old, because I just don’t see much here besides a bad romance.

I don't see anything criminal but I think it paints him as extremely slimy

[Anonymous]

Unreadably bad writing, had to bail - who can summarize?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unreadably bad writing, had to bail - who can summarize?

He was working on a play a few years ago. Young fresh on the scene ingenue is there under a mentor to learn about producing. JG is instantly enamored with her and begins an intense flirtation that basically everyone in the play encourages because he is performing well while playing this cat and mouse game. He proceeds to kind of string her along via text for a few months, only seeking her when she seems to be losing interest in him. His mom and sister treat her with outright contempt at various points. After the show is complete and JG's interest becomes less intense her mentor treats her like a pariah (despite actively encouraging her to play the part of muse in the beginning).

They finally have a sexual encounter and it is fairly aggressive and entirely one sided (he is brought to completion but she is not).

So he strongly pursues, then strings along for months keeping her just teetering on the edge of believing he might actually like her only to get an orga$m and bail entirely. She is not ostracized from her career path AND feeling vaguely dirty.

Nothing at all illegal happened, but just the whole thing feels sleazy.

[Anonymous]

She is NOW ostracized, not NOT

[Anonymous]

I.......I dunno.

I am kind of tired of these stories where on Day 2 she's feeling anxious and insecure and pressured and can't just be like no, chill out man. No, not going to the party with you. Nope, not interested.

I mean have some level of ownership of what you want to do and don't want to do. I feel like that's the bare minimum. From the man's perspective, he's flirting, she's responding, he continues flirting. I mean say yes or say no, don't just passively drift along. Why don't women feel like they can do that? It's bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it's really bad.

I feel sad for this woman she apparently had absolutely no one to speak to in her life that could give her any reasonable advice and that she was so unsure of herself.

It also reminded me of the Matt Lauer stories.

We need to raise our daughters with conversations about how to handle these situations. Not pretend like guys and situations like this don't exist. Which sucks.

[Anonymous]

Sounds a little like the Aziz Ansari story. What do these young women think? That these older, rich, famous men are going to be some Prince Charming? No, they are looking for a pretty young thing to pump up their ego and get their jollies. At most, you may get some good stories out of it or some nice dinners. If that’s not what you are looking for, say no and move along. If the mentor pressured her into it, and then froze her out, I think the mentor is the worst one here.

But yes, he’s sleazy she gross. Not super impressed with Maggie who strikes me as not that great an actress and very full of herself. But she should have told this girl “Look, you’re an adult and can make your own decisions but I hope you know my brother is using you and you should tell him to f— off if you’re not using him too.”

[Anonymous]

It does feel sleazy -- her included. She had been in the business for years according to her and not like he screwed her the first time they met on the casting couch.

I don't understand younger women, all about women power except when it comes to them and ZERO personal responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I.......I dunno.

I am kind of tired of these stories where on Day 2 she's feeling anxious and insecure and pressured and can't just be like no, chill out man. No, not going to the party with you. Nope, not interested.

I mean have some level of ownership of what you want to do and don't want to do. I feel like that's the bare minimum. From the man's perspective, he's flirting, she's responding, he continues flirting. I mean say yes or say no, don't just passively drift along. Why don't women feel like they can do that? It's bizarre.

Much easier done on an even playing field. She was an intern. The power imbalance is an important factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It does feel sleazy -- her included. She had been in the business for years according to her and not like he screwed her the first time they met on the casting couch.

I don't understand younger women, all about women power except when it comes to them and ZERO personal responsibility.

This was a 19 year old who hadn’t even had a boyfriend yet. At 19 I was in a similar boat - a virgin with no experience with men. My first boyfriend was in college. It’s gross and creepy for a man twice her age in a position of power to aggressively pursue her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I.......I dunno.

I am kind of tired of these stories where on Day 2 she's feeling anxious and insecure and pressured and can't just be like no, chill out man. No, not going to the party with you. Nope, not interested.

I mean have some level of ownership of what you want to do and don't want to do. I feel like that's the bare minimum. From the man's perspective, he's flirting, she's responding, he continues flirting. I mean say yes or say no, don't just passively drift along. Why don't women feel like they can do that? It's bizarre.

If she had rejected him, and hurt his ego, you better believe she would have been out of there. And she knew it.

[Anonymous]

No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, she cleverly throws around a bunch of ages - she started with the mentor when she was 19, but at the time of the story she was 23.

Which is still really young. But still. Own your sexuality and your power.

You can see that she made poor decisions and has culpability and ALSO that he comes across VERY slimy. Which is where I land on it FWIW.