Require proof of vaccination for all afterschool activities not just sports teams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#

So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.

No, don't side-track the discussion. And don't you dare minimize pediatric deaths from Covid. If people make stupid claims about Covid, they are corrected.

The discussion is about children dying, so this is not side-tracking the discussion.

And it's not "minimizing pediatric deaths from covid" to mention one of the horrifying number of children killed each year in the US in car crashes, whose deaths we just accept it as an unfortunate but unavoidable cost of car travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#

So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.

No, don't side-track the discussion. And don't you dare minimize pediatric deaths from Covid. If people make stupid claims about Covid, they are corrected.

The discussion is about children dying, so this is not side-tracking the discussion.

And it's not "minimizing pediatric deaths from covid" to mention one of the horrifying number of children killed each year in the US in car crashes, whose deaths we just accept it as an unfortunate but unavoidable cost of car travel.

So we should also not be concerned about school shootings, because more teens die in car crashes, correct? Am I understanding your point correctly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they allow sports, they should allow everything and vice versa. One rule for all activities. Now you all can debate what the rule is but it should be uniform across activities. If you cancel chess, you cancel soccer. If basketball games go on, so do concerts. If Model UN meets, so does volleyball. If the orchestra can practice, so can the hockey team.

If members of the soccer team have to be vaccinated, members of the chess club have to be vaccinated. If basketball games go on with vaccinated players, so do concerts with vaccinated players. Etc.

Exactly. Everyone should have a chance to play, not just the athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#

So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.

No, don't side-track the discussion. And don't you dare minimize pediatric deaths from Covid. If people make stupid claims about Covid, they are corrected.

The discussion is about children dying, so this is not side-tracking the discussion.

And it's not "minimizing pediatric deaths from covid" to mention one of the horrifying number of children killed each year in the US in car crashes, whose deaths we just accept it as an unfortunate but unavoidable cost of car travel.

So we should also not be concerned about school shootings, because more teens die in car crashes, correct? Am I understanding your point correctly?

No, you are 100% misunderstanding my point. My point is that we should be concerned about school shootings AND car crashes.

Whereas the top PP's point seems to be that the only pediatric deaths we should be concerned about are pediatric deaths from covid.

[Anonymous]

I'm the poster who corrected misinformation about children not dying from Covid.

It is extremely irritating to see morons post, months after months, disinformation about the most basic pandemic facts. If you are guilty of this, you are a troll, who deliberately seeks to confuse others and generate maximum Covid chaos, or you are a dumb follower, who believes everything they read on the internet.

Either way, you contribute to excess deaths from Covid. The whataboutism of Covid-minimizers is infamous, so I will not address pediatric deaths from any other cause on this thread. It's not that I don't care, it's that it's a known tactic of Covid minimizers and deniers to distract others from thinking critically about ways to reduce Covid cases.

Stay on topic. I agree that there should be mask and vaccine mandates everywhere. We'd have saved hundreds of thousands of lives already if the US had that in place. Freedumb indeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should require vaccines for school, period. It is time.

+1 Vaccines should be required for all staff and all students. It’s hypocritical to require vaccinations for certain students but not require it for all students and staff.

I do agree that it is hypocritical to require vaccines for one group and not others. But I disagree that vaccines should be required for all kids.

No vaccine mandates for kids AT ALL. They are clearly not helpful or necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm the poster who corrected misinformation about children not dying from Covid.

It is extremely irritating to see morons post, months after months, disinformation about the most basic pandemic facts. If you are guilty of this, you are a troll, who deliberately seeks to confuse others and generate maximum Covid chaos, or you are a dumb follower, who believes everything they read on the internet.

Either way, you contribute to excess deaths from Covid. The whataboutism of Covid-minimizers is infamous, so I will not address pediatric deaths from any other cause on this thread. It's not that I don't care, it's that it's a known tactic of Covid minimizers and deniers to distract others from thinking critically about ways to reduce Covid cases.

Stay on topic. I agree that there should be mask and vaccine mandates everywhere. We'd have saved hundreds of thousands of lives already if the US had that in place. Freedumb indeed.

We are in topic.

This is the MCPS forum. You can discuss Covid deaths in Maryland as a whole elsewhere if you so choose.

In Montgomery County, ZERO kids have died due to Covid. ZERO. That is a fact. Since Day 1 of this pandemic. And even before vaccines were available. That is why it is ridiculous to mandate a shot for kids age 0-18. Whether for sports or to attend school or for Model UN.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

[Anonymous]

*on topic

[Anonymous]

At this point, I don't really care whether vaccines are mandated for children. It is clear that even if they are and everyone gets one, the goalposts will immediately shift. DCUM will be shouting "but you can still get COVID even if vaccinated" and thus we'll have another reason to abstain from activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#

So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.

No, don't side-track the discussion. And don't you dare minimize pediatric deaths from Covid. If people make stupid claims about Covid, they are corrected.

The discussion is about children dying, so this is not side-tracking the discussion.

And it's not "minimizing pediatric deaths from covid" to mention one of the horrifying number of children killed each year in the US in car crashes, whose deaths we just accept it as an unfortunate but unavoidable cost of car travel.

So we should also not be concerned about school shootings, because more teens die in car crashes, correct? Am I understanding your point correctly?

DP

No. The point is that no kids have died due to Covid. And yet, here we are, with restrictions on our kids’ activities. And people proposing an insane vaccine mandate for kids.

If you want to advocate for crazy, aggressive polices that target kids, when the disease does not target kids, you are being completely unreasonable. Our kids should not carry the burden of a problem that doesn’t affect them as much, relatively speaking.

[Anonymous]

I think that every single person, adult or child, who steps foot into a school for any reason should be required to be vaccinated age 5 and up and be required to wear a mask. School attendance, sports, all extra curricular programs and board meetings should all require proof of vaccination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point, I don't really care whether vaccines are mandated for children. It is clear that even if they are and everyone gets one, the goalposts will immediately shift. DCUM will be shouting "but you can still get COVID even if vaccinated" and thus we'll have another reason to abstain from activities.

Actually I think that's one poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. We can debate how effective requiring vaccinations for all activities would be, but I just wanted to address the original concern.

Activities other than sports are often very informal, such as kids getting together after school (mostlyl in high school) for club meetings. Because kids don't have to formally register to be a part of such clubs, it would be difficult to require or track vaccinations, unless you made them bring their vaccine cards to enter a club meeting. If this were going to happen, we should just require vaccines for all MCPS students, which I know is also debatable.

I just wanted to explain the most likely reason why they have required the vaccine for sports participation, which also requires a physical and parent permission, and not other after school activities.

Typically the sports teams are in MS and HS. In many of those schools there are also organized, more formal activities (curricular and extracurricular) like the spring musical, fall play, dance concerts, instrumental music concerts and more. It would not be a stretch to require vaccinations when the parents approve the kids participation in these activities just like the sports teams. I would think MCPS should absolutely set up a system similar to the team sports for performance activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they allow sports, they should allow everything and vice versa. One rule for all activities. Now you all can debate what the rule is but it should be uniform across activities. If you cancel chess, you cancel soccer. If basketball games go on, so do concerts. If Model UN meets, so does volleyball. If the orchestra can practice, so can the hockey team.

Completely agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

We are in topic.

This is the MCPS forum. You can discuss Covid deaths in Maryland as a whole elsewhere if you so choose.

In Montgomery County, ZERO kids have died due to Covid. ZERO. That is a fact. Since Day 1 of this pandemic. And even before vaccines were available. That is why it is ridiculous to mandate a shot for kids age 0-18. Whether for sports or to attend school or for Model UN.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

So if/when a child in Montgomery County dies due to covid, then you will be ok with vaccine requirements? Or will it take 2 deaths? Or 5? How many?