Require proof of vaccination for all afterschool activities not just sports teams

Anonymous

For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.



Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#


So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#


So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.


No, don't side-track the discussion. And don't you dare minimize pediatric deaths from Covid. If people make stupid claims about Covid, they are corrected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should require vaccines for school, period. It is time.


Not a chance. The vaccine still isn’t fully FDA approved for kids 5-11.

You want to mandate a EUA vaccine for 6 year olds that hasn’t even been studied on kids for a year yet.

Think about what that will mean for the future. Pfizer comes out with some new drug that they say will prevent the flu. Best and easiest way to make a profit? Mandate the drug be given to every kid who attends public school.

Pharmaceutical companies will see a gold mine. Parents should be very careful before pushing for any vaccine mandates, but especially for kid. That is an incredibly short-sighted view.


I guess your partner is the one who's been filling out the forms.

https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/OIDEOR/IMMUN/Shared%20Documents/Min_Vacc_Req%2018_19_Final.pdf


Which one of those vaccines has been our for less than a year for kids?

Which one of those vaccines is under EUA?

I’ll give you a hint - none of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.

Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#


So, 4 children under age 9 since March 2020?

A four-year-old riding in a car with her parents was killed in a car crash on Georgia Avenue in Wheaton, a few months ago. I'm waiting for your call to shut down Georgia Avenue.


Exactly.

Kids die in Maryland for so many tragic reasons. And they are more likely to die in a car accident or at the hands of a parent than they are to die if Covid.

4 deaths since March 2020. That is (luckily) and incredibly tiny number. And that is certainly not enough reason to mandate any kind of shot, but especially not a shot that is not even fully FDA approved. And not even EUA for kids under age 5.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree OP.
And I’m irritated that model Un can’t meet in person but the indoor basketball games are going forward—despite demonstrated outbreaks in the teams.


That is just stupid public health policy. Take that up with the idiots who set the policy. And I agree with you, that it’s ridiculous to shut down Model UN and allow basketball.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should require vaccines for school, period. It is time.


Not a chance. The vaccine still isn’t fully FDA approved for kids 5-11.

You want to mandate a EUA vaccine for 6 year olds that hasn’t even been studied on kids for a year yet.

Think about what that will mean for the future. Pfizer comes out with some new drug that they say will prevent the flu. Best and easiest way to make a profit? Mandate the drug be given to every kid who attends public school.

Pharmaceutical companies will see a gold mine. Parents should be very careful before pushing for any vaccine mandates, but especially for kid. That is an incredibly short-sighted view.


I guess your partner is the one who's been filling out the forms.

https://health.maryland.gov/phpa/OIDEOR/IMMUN/Shared%20Documents/Min_Vacc_Req%2018_19_Final.pdf

DP.. I think some parents don't like that it's still EUA for covid vax. The other vaxx have been used for many years.

FWIW My kids are all vaxxed, but I did have some reservations for my 13 yr old DD who is built like a 10 yr old.


The other vaccines were also new when they were new...


And none of them were mandated when they were EUA. Not a single one.

Pfizer is studying the (very small number of) kids in its Covid vaccine clinical trials for 24 months to see what happens. There is a reason for that.

Pfizer is absolved of all responsibility when a vaccine is administered under EUA. It is unethical and wrong to mandate a Covid shot at this point, and really for at least the next year or two.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They should require vaccines for school, period. It is time.


+1000


-1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree OP.
And I’m irritated that model Un can’t meet in person but the indoor basketball games are going forward—despite demonstrated outbreaks in the teams.


What do you think mandating vaccines for kids will do?

My kid is vaccinated and plays basketball. Last night, our HS basketball games were cancelled anyway. Due to too many athletes being out with Covid.

MCPS might be saying that sports can continue, but so many sports ended up cancelled anyway. Our Swim Meet was also cancelled last week due to Covid.
Anonymous
Teacher here. We can debate how effective requiring vaccinations for all activities would be, but I just wanted to address the original concern.

Activities other than sports are often very informal, such as kids getting together after school (mostlyl in high school) for club meetings. Because kids don't have to formally register to be a part of such clubs, it would be difficult to require or track vaccinations, unless you made them bring their vaccine cards to enter a club meeting. If this were going to happen, we should just require vaccines for all MCPS students, which I know is also debatable.

I just wanted to explain the most likely reason why they have required the vaccine for sports participation, which also requires a physical and parent permission, and not other after school activities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here. We can debate how effective requiring vaccinations for all activities would be, but I just wanted to address the original concern.

Activities other than sports are often very informal, such as kids getting together after school (mostlyl in high school) for club meetings. Because kids don't have to formally register to be a part of such clubs, it would be difficult to require or track vaccinations, unless you made them bring their vaccine cards to enter a club meeting. If this were going to happen, we should just require vaccines for all MCPS students, which I know is also debatable.

I just wanted to explain the most likely reason why they have required the vaccine for sports participation, which also requires a physical and parent permission, and not other after school activities.


There is not a chance that requiring vaccines for all MCPS students is a good idea.

We definitely should NOT require vaccines for all MCPS students.
Anonymous
If they allow sports, they should allow everything and vice versa. One rule for all activities. Now you all can debate what the rule is but it should be uniform across activities. If you cancel chess, you cancel soccer. If basketball games go on, so do concerts. If Model UN meets, so does volleyball. If the orchestra can practice, so can the hockey team.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They should require vaccines for school, period. It is time.


+1 Vaccines should be required for all staff and all students. It’s hypocritical to require vaccinations for certain students but not require it for all students and staff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If they allow sports, they should allow everything and vice versa. One rule for all activities. Now you all can debate what the rule is but it should be uniform across activities. If you cancel chess, you cancel soccer. If basketball games go on, so do concerts. If Model UN meets, so does volleyball. If the orchestra can practice, so can the hockey team.


If members of the soccer team have to be vaccinated, members of the chess club have to be vaccinated. If basketball games go on with vaccinated players, so do concerts with vaccinated players. Etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
For the morons who don't keep up with the news: children have died from Covid in MD.



Fourth young child dies from COVID-19 in Maryland

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/fourth-child-dies-covid-19-maryland/37179493#


That's from July..before children were vaccine eligible
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