Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:Have Oakton people tried to take over the Chantilly meeting?

Yes, there was someone from Crossfield advocating to keep with Oakton.

Couple more in the breakout session.

The squeeky wheel will get oiled.

The question is how many people are quietly calling or emailing the school board with a different opinion. No one wants to speak out publicly against people who are being so vocal, that they have to see all the time.

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If she really had 12 hotspots she sure isn’t sharing them with us. west Springfield lady was on virtual at the Chantilly meeting and asked her what the hotspots were. She said “I didn’t bring my folder “

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Did something occur at Kilmer to cause a significant reduction in capacity? In SY 2023 - 2024 it is listed as 1,227 and in SY 2024 - 2025 it is listed as 1,023. It has been as high as 1,272 in the last ten years. How is capacity being determined? I could see an imbalance between grades causing issues - not enough rooms but think that would be more likely at the elementary level. Maybe it is a staffing issue? Does anyone know where the raw capacity numbers by school being used for the boundary review effort is posted? https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/fcps.fts/viz/SY2024-25CapacityDashboard/ReadMe

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was better for that area of wolftrap. No more attendance island

It's not a Wolftrap ES island. It's a Westbriar ES island.

Moving that island to Wolftrap would have been the obvious solution and avoided the new problems they've created (they've turned the island into an ES/MS/HS island rather than just an ES island, and they're crowding Thoreau).

But it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle once they've offered the Wolftrap families now at Marshall a one-way ticket out of IB to a wealthier school.

For those of us currently zoned Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall and the perfect student body mix at Marshall with strong academic performance here's hoping this boundary review process crashes and burns and no change is made.

Marshall Pride is nice but judging from the revisions to Scenario 3 and the comments at public meetings most of those zoned for Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall clearly welcome the Scenario 4 proposal to move to Thoreau/Madison. They haven't just quietly acquiesced in the change; they've come out in droves to say they support it.

I'm lost - is this a popularity contest? How are we measuring things? What was the "voter turnout"? Is it the wishes of parents of students now versus those that have come before or will come in the future? Is it focused on parents of students currently at a particular stage of schooling versus those at another (i.e., elementary versus high school)? Is it which moves makes neighborhoods more valuable? Is it to reduce the economic and/or ethnic diversity at certain schools while concentrating needs at certain schools? I hope this work is being done to ensure schools can handle capacity over the next 10 - 20 years, improve transportation, try to balance needs across schools, and provide the best education possible for all.

Let's recap, shall we?

Kilmer is overcrowded, Madison was recently expanded, and the latest proposal eliminates the split feeder at Wolftrap by assigning all of it, including the Marshall neighborhoods, to Thoreau/Madison. So it's kind of a three-for-one (helps with overcrowding at Kilmer, takes advantage of additional capacity at Madison, and eliminates a split feeder).

They had a community meeting this week, and those from the affected Wolftrap neighborhoods were close to unanimous in their support for the move. Reid then told them that, even if other changes were made affecting Madison/Marshall boundaries, she wouldn't anticipate the proposal affecting Wolftrap getting reversed.

Anything is possible with FCPS, but they'd have an awful lot of egg on their face at this point if they said "never mind" and reverted to the current Wolftrap boundary.

Okay, but you’re ignoring the fact that scenario 4 has:

- Kilmer at 101% and Thoreau at 104%
- Thoreau’s numbers shift even higher if TOV-Westbriar goes to Thoreau too, and if they don’t Kilmer remains a split feeder
- That moving all of Wolftrap creates a gaping attendance island for Kilmer and Marshall
- That portions of Stenwood and Cunningham Park are already zoned to Thoreau, yet sent to Marshall when they could be taking advantage of Madison’s new capacity without overcrowding Thoreau and helps reduce a three way split feeder down to two schools

So it’s creating just as many problems as it’s “fixing.”

I'm not ignoring any of this. There aren't perfect solutions.

Maybe the area now at Westbriar/Kilmer/Madison ends up a very small split from Kilmer to Madison. Their main goal was to stay at Madison, not get moved to Thoreau. And they could still come up with something that doesn't leave the Westbriar island an ES-MS-HS island. Further, if the three-way split at Thoreau is so troublesome (it's something a prior School Board very deliberately created), maybe the solution is to move the Oakton areas back to Jackson.

In any event, Reid has very clearly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they can expect to move to Madison. If she makes such statements, and the School Board then overrides them later, she might as well submit her resignation letter.

Do you have any idea how many statements she has made? She gets wrapped-up in making people that she is standing in front of her happy.

this. how many times last night did she tell people to write down their proposals so she could look at them. there is no way she’s taking most of them serious

Telling people to write down their suggestions on a piece of paper is quite different than specifically telling them she does not expect changes in Scenario 4 to be reversed later. If that happens, Reid has blown her credibility and I’d expect to see SB members like Meren seek her termination.

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Anonymous wrote:Did something occur at Kilmer to cause a significant reduction in capacity? In SY 2023 - 2024 it is listed as 1,227 and in SY 2024 - 2025 it is listed as 1,023. It has been as high as 1,272 in the last ten years. How is capacity being determined? I could see an imbalance between grades causing issues - not enough rooms but think that would be more likely at the elementary level. Maybe it is a staffing issue? Does anyone know where the raw capacity numbers by school being used for the boundary review effort is posted? https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/fcps.fts/viz/SY2024-25CapacityDashboard/ReadMe

I submitted a request to facilities or whoever releases the CIP about this a while ago and no one ever answered. The program capacity with the modular is even less than it was before the modular was installed!

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Anonymous wrote:Did something occur at Kilmer to cause a significant reduction in capacity? In SY 2023 - 2024 it is listed as 1,227 and in SY 2024 - 2025 it is listed as 1,023. It has been as high as 1,272 in the last ten years. How is capacity being determined? I could see an imbalance between grades causing issues - not enough rooms but think that would be more likely at the elementary level. Maybe it is a staffing issue? Does anyone know where the raw capacity numbers by school being used for the boundary review effort is posted? https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/fcps.fts/viz/SY2024-25CapacityDashboard/ReadMe

I submitted a request to facilities or whoever releases the CIP about this a while ago and no one ever answered. The program capacity with the modular is even less than it was before the modular was installed!

This is very concerning. You would think accurately forecasting building capacity would be the starting point for boundary review. Wonder how the new middle school AAP policy (AAP at every middle school) changes capacity? Throw in a new high school for good measure too.

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Anonymous wrote:Have Oakton people tried to take over the Chantilly meeting?

Yes, there was someone from Crossfield advocating to keep with Oakton.

Couple more in the breakout session.

The squeeky wheel will get oiled.

The question is how many people are quietly calling or emailing the school board with a different opinion. No one wants to speak out publicly against people who are being so vocal, that they have to see all the time.

That may be the case, but the navy/crossfield cohort is known for being super vocal and catered too.

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Anonymous wrote:Have Oakton people tried to take over the Chantilly meeting?

Yes, there was someone from Crossfield advocating to keep with Oakton.

Couple more in the breakout session.

The squeeky wheel will get oiled.

The question is how many people are quietly calling or emailing the school board with a different opinion. No one wants to speak out publicly against people who are being so vocal, that they have to see all the time.

I hope the school board sees through them, but they are not very good at that, are they?

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Anonymous wrote:Have Oakton people tried to take over the Chantilly meeting?

Yes, there was someone from Crossfield advocating to keep with Oakton.

Couple more in the breakout session.

The squeeky wheel will get oiled.

The question is how many people are quietly calling or emailing the school board with a different opinion. No one wants to speak out publicly against people who are being so vocal, that they have to see all the time.

That may be the case, but the navy/crossfield cohort is known for being super vocal and catered too.

I am a Crossfield parent and feel like I am being bullied and iced out of things for having a different opinion than some of our neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was better for that area of wolftrap. No more attendance island

It's not a Wolftrap ES island. It's a Westbriar ES island.

Moving that island to Wolftrap would have been the obvious solution and avoided the new problems they've created (they've turned the island into an ES/MS/HS island rather than just an ES island, and they're crowding Thoreau).

But it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle once they've offered the Wolftrap families now at Marshall a one-way ticket out of IB to a wealthier school.

For those of us currently zoned Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall and the perfect student body mix at Marshall with strong academic performance here's hoping this boundary review process crashes and burns and no change is made.

Marshall Pride is nice but judging from the revisions to Scenario 3 and the comments at public meetings most of those zoned for Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall clearly welcome the Scenario 4 proposal to move to Thoreau/Madison. They haven't just quietly acquiesced in the change; they've come out in droves to say they support it.

I'm lost - is this a popularity contest? How are we measuring things? What was the "voter turnout"? Is it the wishes of parents of students now versus those that have come before or will come in the future? Is it focused on parents of students currently at a particular stage of schooling versus those at another (i.e., elementary versus high school)? Is it which moves makes neighborhoods more valuable? Is it to reduce the economic and/or ethnic diversity at certain schools while concentrating needs at certain schools? I hope this work is being done to ensure schools can handle capacity over the next 10 - 20 years, improve transportation, try to balance needs across schools, and provide the best education possible for all.

Let's recap, shall we?

Kilmer is overcrowded, Madison was recently expanded, and the latest proposal eliminates the split feeder at Wolftrap by assigning all of it, including the Marshall neighborhoods, to Thoreau/Madison. So it's kind of a three-for-one (helps with overcrowding at Kilmer, takes advantage of additional capacity at Madison, and eliminates a split feeder).

They had a community meeting this week, and those from the affected Wolftrap neighborhoods were close to unanimous in their support for the move. Reid then told them that, even if other changes were made affecting Madison/Marshall boundaries, she wouldn't anticipate the proposal affecting Wolftrap getting reversed.

Anything is possible with FCPS, but they'd have an awful lot of egg on their face at this point if they said "never mind" and reverted to the current Wolftrap boundary.

Okay, but you’re ignoring the fact that scenario 4 has:

- Kilmer at 101% and Thoreau at 104%
- Thoreau’s numbers shift even higher if TOV-Westbriar goes to Thoreau too, and if they don’t Kilmer remains a split feeder
- That moving all of Wolftrap creates a gaping attendance island for Kilmer and Marshall
- That portions of Stenwood and Cunningham Park are already zoned to Thoreau, yet sent to Marshall when they could be taking advantage of Madison’s new capacity without overcrowding Thoreau and helps reduce a three way split feeder down to two schools

So it’s creating just as many problems as it’s “fixing.”

I'm not ignoring any of this. There aren't perfect solutions.

Maybe the area now at Westbriar/Kilmer/Madison ends up a very small split from Kilmer to Madison. Their main goal was to stay at Madison, not get moved to Thoreau. And they could still come up with something that doesn't leave the Westbriar island an ES-MS-HS island. Further, if the three-way split at Thoreau is so troublesome (it's something a prior School Board very deliberately created), maybe the solution is to move the Oakton areas back to Jackson.

In any event, Reid has very clearly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they can expect to move to Madison. If she makes such statements, and the School Board then overrides them later, she might as well submit her resignation letter.

Do you have any idea how many statements she has made? She gets wrapped-up in making people that she is standing in front of her happy.

I agree.

Don't forget, SPAs have to be moved together. They can't just pick out a street here or there based on who complains the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone across the board is happy with scenario 4 except a small contingent of folks from NE Vienna, Wolf Trap Elementary, and Lemon Rd elementary.

Wrong - Wolftrap elementary families by far favor scenario 4

That was certainly my impression.

For parents with kids currently at Wolftrap attending the meeting than yes but for parents with kids attending or having attended Marshall with Wolftrap as their elementary school than no. The second group would much rather stay with the Wolfrap / Kilmer / Marshall boundary.

We were talking about the comments at the Madison/McLean meeting last night. There were a lot of Wolftrap parents saying they favored the elimination of the split feeder, which sends them all to Madison. There was one parent asking whether his kid could attend Marshall if they are rezoned to Madison.

I don't doubt there are other Wolftrap families happy with Marshall, but they weren't speaking up last night to leave the boundary unchanged.

They can join Lemon Road’s pouting party who were told in Scenarios 1-3 that their split feeder would be resolved. Keeping Wolftrap at Marshall resolves the attendance island at the MS and HS level, and while Madison might have some capacity, Thoreau would be at 107% with nearly 750 students per grade.

They could still decide to reassign the Westbriar island to either Colvin Run or Sunrise Valley. Moving all of Wolftrap to Madison turned that island, which previously had just been an ES island, into an ES/MS/HS island. It's one thing to leave a current island alone. It's another thing to create a new island, or make an existing island worse by turning it into an island for not just the ES, but also the MS and/or HS.

i think sunrise valley is a high probability
if the chunk of south lakes in one of those proposals goes to KAA. south lakes will go down to 80%. it makes sense to move them there

Or send the island to Colvin Run/Cooper/Langley and they won't have to wait until 2030 to have the capacity-based argument to move at least part of Forestville into the Herndon pyramid.

Either eliminates the Westbriar island.

i don’t see them doing that this round. i have listened to many meetings and reid has said from here it will be micro changes and they aren’t going to propose moving any areas that haven’t been considered already. they said they are too far in and can’t handle the fight if it happens. if they move westbriar to langley it would put it over capacity which is the main focus of this round of boundary changes (per reid). they would then have to cut neighborhoods out of langley which have not been proposed in any scenario so far. i dont see it happening

At the WSHS meeting, she said that at the beginning, but by the end of the night after hearing all the complaints by the 2 neighborhoods still getting rezoned in 4, she said that Map 3 is going to be revisted.

Map 3 has some very disruptive changes on it for that area, including split feeders and changing elementary schools to farther away schools.

Map 5 is going to be interesting, especially if it reverts back to some of the major changes that were part of map 3, and allows neighborhoods that were moved in all the scenarios to remain.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was better for that area of wolftrap. No more attendance island

It's not a Wolftrap ES island. It's a Westbriar ES island.

Moving that island to Wolftrap would have been the obvious solution and avoided the new problems they've created (they've turned the island into an ES/MS/HS island rather than just an ES island, and they're crowding Thoreau).

But it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle once they've offered the Wolftrap families now at Marshall a one-way ticket out of IB to a wealthier school.

For those of us currently zoned Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall and the perfect student body mix at Marshall with strong academic performance here's hoping this boundary review process crashes and burns and no change is made.

Marshall Pride is nice but judging from the revisions to Scenario 3 and the comments at public meetings most of those zoned for Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall clearly welcome the Scenario 4 proposal to move to Thoreau/Madison. They haven't just quietly acquiesced in the change; they've come out in droves to say they support it.

I'm lost - is this a popularity contest? How are we measuring things? What was the "voter turnout"? Is it the wishes of parents of students now versus those that have come before or will come in the future? Is it focused on parents of students currently at a particular stage of schooling versus those at another (i.e., elementary versus high school)? Is it which moves makes neighborhoods more valuable? Is it to reduce the economic and/or ethnic diversity at certain schools while concentrating needs at certain schools? I hope this work is being done to ensure schools can handle capacity over the next 10 - 20 years, improve transportation, try to balance needs across schools, and provide the best education possible for all.

Let's recap, shall we?

Kilmer is overcrowded, Madison was recently expanded, and the latest proposal eliminates the split feeder at Wolftrap by assigning all of it, including the Marshall neighborhoods, to Thoreau/Madison. So it's kind of a three-for-one (helps with overcrowding at Kilmer, takes advantage of additional capacity at Madison, and eliminates a split feeder).

They had a community meeting this week, and those from the affected Wolftrap neighborhoods were close to unanimous in their support for the move. Reid then told them that, even if other changes were made affecting Madison/Marshall boundaries, she wouldn't anticipate the proposal affecting Wolftrap getting reversed.

Anything is possible with FCPS, but they'd have an awful lot of egg on their face at this point if they said "never mind" and reverted to the current Wolftrap boundary.

Okay, but you’re ignoring the fact that scenario 4 has:

- Kilmer at 101% and Thoreau at 104%
- Thoreau’s numbers shift even higher if TOV-Westbriar goes to Thoreau too, and if they don’t Kilmer remains a split feeder
- That moving all of Wolftrap creates a gaping attendance island for Kilmer and Marshall
- That portions of Stenwood and Cunningham Park are already zoned to Thoreau, yet sent to Marshall when they could be taking advantage of Madison’s new capacity without overcrowding Thoreau and helps reduce a three way split feeder down to two schools

So it’s creating just as many problems as it’s “fixing.”

I'm not ignoring any of this. There aren't perfect solutions.

Maybe the area now at Westbriar/Kilmer/Madison ends up a very small split from Kilmer to Madison. Their main goal was to stay at Madison, not get moved to Thoreau. And they could still come up with something that doesn't leave the Westbriar island an ES-MS-HS island. Further, if the three-way split at Thoreau is so troublesome (it's something a prior School Board very deliberately created), maybe the solution is to move the Oakton areas back to Jackson.

In any event, Reid has very clearly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they can expect to move to Madison. If she makes such statements, and the School Board then overrides them later, she might as well submit her resignation letter.

Do you have any idea how many statements she has made? She gets wrapped-up in making people that she is standing in front of her happy.

this. how many times last night did she tell people to write down their proposals so she could look at them. there is no way she’s taking most of them serious

Telling people to write down their suggestions on a piece of paper is quite different than specifically telling them she does not expect changes in Scenario 4 to be reversed later. If that happens, Reid has blown her credibility and I’d expect to see SB members like Meren seek her termination.

Reid specifically told WSHS/LBSS that Map 3 is back on the table.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was better for that area of wolftrap. No more attendance island

It's not a Wolftrap ES island. It's a Westbriar ES island.

Moving that island to Wolftrap would have been the obvious solution and avoided the new problems they've created (they've turned the island into an ES/MS/HS island rather than just an ES island, and they're crowding Thoreau).

But it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle once they've offered the Wolftrap families now at Marshall a one-way ticket out of IB to a wealthier school.

For those of us currently zoned Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall and the perfect student body mix at Marshall with strong academic performance here's hoping this boundary review process crashes and burns and no change is made.

Marshall Pride is nice but judging from the revisions to Scenario 3 and the comments at public meetings most of those zoned for Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall clearly welcome the Scenario 4 proposal to move to Thoreau/Madison. They haven't just quietly acquiesced in the change; they've come out in droves to say they support it.

I'm lost - is this a popularity contest? How are we measuring things? What was the "voter turnout"? Is it the wishes of parents of students now versus those that have come before or will come in the future? Is it focused on parents of students currently at a particular stage of schooling versus those at another (i.e., elementary versus high school)? Is it which moves makes neighborhoods more valuable? Is it to reduce the economic and/or ethnic diversity at certain schools while concentrating needs at certain schools? I hope this work is being done to ensure schools can handle capacity over the next 10 - 20 years, improve transportation, try to balance needs across schools, and provide the best education possible for all.

Let's recap, shall we?

Kilmer is overcrowded, Madison was recently expanded, and the latest proposal eliminates the split feeder at Wolftrap by assigning all of it, including the Marshall neighborhoods, to Thoreau/Madison. So it's kind of a three-for-one (helps with overcrowding at Kilmer, takes advantage of additional capacity at Madison, and eliminates a split feeder).

They had a community meeting this week, and those from the affected Wolftrap neighborhoods were close to unanimous in their support for the move. Reid then told them that, even if other changes were made affecting Madison/Marshall boundaries, she wouldn't anticipate the proposal affecting Wolftrap getting reversed.

Anything is possible with FCPS, but they'd have an awful lot of egg on their face at this point if they said "never mind" and reverted to the current Wolftrap boundary.

Okay, but you’re ignoring the fact that scenario 4 has:

- Kilmer at 101% and Thoreau at 104%
- Thoreau’s numbers shift even higher if TOV-Westbriar goes to Thoreau too, and if they don’t Kilmer remains a split feeder
- That moving all of Wolftrap creates a gaping attendance island for Kilmer and Marshall
- That portions of Stenwood and Cunningham Park are already zoned to Thoreau, yet sent to Marshall when they could be taking advantage of Madison’s new capacity without overcrowding Thoreau and helps reduce a three way split feeder down to two schools

So it’s creating just as many problems as it’s “fixing.”

I'm not ignoring any of this. There aren't perfect solutions.

Maybe the area now at Westbriar/Kilmer/Madison ends up a very small split from Kilmer to Madison. Their main goal was to stay at Madison, not get moved to Thoreau. And they could still come up with something that doesn't leave the Westbriar island an ES-MS-HS island. Further, if the three-way split at Thoreau is so troublesome (it's something a prior School Board very deliberately created), maybe the solution is to move the Oakton areas back to Jackson.

In any event, Reid has very clearly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they can expect to move to Madison. If she makes such statements, and the School Board then overrides them later, she might as well submit her resignation letter.

Do you have any idea how many statements she has made? She gets wrapped-up in making people that she is standing in front of her happy.

this. how many times last night did she tell people to write down their proposals so she could look at them. there is no way she’s taking most of them serious

Telling people to write down their suggestions on a piece of paper is quite different than specifically telling them she does not expect changes in Scenario 4 to be reversed later. If that happens, Reid has blown her credibility and I’d expect to see SB members like Meren seek her termination.

Reid specifically told WSHS/LBSS that Map 3 is back on the table.

I was referring to statements Reid made to people about specific proposals in Scenario 4. I wasn’t saying she said nothing in Scenario 4 could change.

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Anonymous wrote:Scenario 3 was better for that area of wolftrap. No more attendance island

It's not a Wolftrap ES island. It's a Westbriar ES island.

Moving that island to Wolftrap would have been the obvious solution and avoided the new problems they've created (they've turned the island into an ES/MS/HS island rather than just an ES island, and they're crowding Thoreau).

But it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle once they've offered the Wolftrap families now at Marshall a one-way ticket out of IB to a wealthier school.

For those of us currently zoned Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall and the perfect student body mix at Marshall with strong academic performance here's hoping this boundary review process crashes and burns and no change is made.

Marshall Pride is nice but judging from the revisions to Scenario 3 and the comments at public meetings most of those zoned for Wolftrap/Kilmer/Marshall clearly welcome the Scenario 4 proposal to move to Thoreau/Madison. They haven't just quietly acquiesced in the change; they've come out in droves to say they support it.

I'm lost - is this a popularity contest? How are we measuring things? What was the "voter turnout"? Is it the wishes of parents of students now versus those that have come before or will come in the future? Is it focused on parents of students currently at a particular stage of schooling versus those at another (i.e., elementary versus high school)? Is it which moves makes neighborhoods more valuable? Is it to reduce the economic and/or ethnic diversity at certain schools while concentrating needs at certain schools? I hope this work is being done to ensure schools can handle capacity over the next 10 - 20 years, improve transportation, try to balance needs across schools, and provide the best education possible for all.

Let's recap, shall we?

Kilmer is overcrowded, Madison was recently expanded, and the latest proposal eliminates the split feeder at Wolftrap by assigning all of it, including the Marshall neighborhoods, to Thoreau/Madison. So it's kind of a three-for-one (helps with overcrowding at Kilmer, takes advantage of additional capacity at Madison, and eliminates a split feeder).

They had a community meeting this week, and those from the affected Wolftrap neighborhoods were close to unanimous in their support for the move. Reid then told them that, even if other changes were made affecting Madison/Marshall boundaries, she wouldn't anticipate the proposal affecting Wolftrap getting reversed.

Anything is possible with FCPS, but they'd have an awful lot of egg on their face at this point if they said "never mind" and reverted to the current Wolftrap boundary.

Okay, but you’re ignoring the fact that scenario 4 has:

- Kilmer at 101% and Thoreau at 104%
- Thoreau’s numbers shift even higher if TOV-Westbriar goes to Thoreau too, and if they don’t Kilmer remains a split feeder
- That moving all of Wolftrap creates a gaping attendance island for Kilmer and Marshall
- That portions of Stenwood and Cunningham Park are already zoned to Thoreau, yet sent to Marshall when they could be taking advantage of Madison’s new capacity without overcrowding Thoreau and helps reduce a three way split feeder down to two schools

So it’s creating just as many problems as it’s “fixing.”

I'm not ignoring any of this. There aren't perfect solutions.

Maybe the area now at Westbriar/Kilmer/Madison ends up a very small split from Kilmer to Madison. Their main goal was to stay at Madison, not get moved to Thoreau. And they could still come up with something that doesn't leave the Westbriar island an ES-MS-HS island. Further, if the three-way split at Thoreau is so troublesome (it's something a prior School Board very deliberately created), maybe the solution is to move the Oakton areas back to Jackson.

In any event, Reid has very clearly told the Wolftrap families now at Marshall they can expect to move to Madison. If she makes such statements, and the School Board then overrides them later, she might as well submit her resignation letter.

Do you have any idea how many statements she has made? She gets wrapped-up in making people that she is standing in front of her happy.

I agree.

Don't forget, SPAs have to be moved together. They can't just pick out a street here or there based on who complains the most.

No matter whether a SPA makes any sense...

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Anonymous wrote:Have Oakton people tried to take over the Chantilly meeting?

Yes, there was someone from Crossfield advocating to keep with Oakton.

Couple more in the breakout session.

The squeeky wheel will get oiled.

The question is how many people are quietly calling or emailing the school board with a different opinion. No one wants to speak out publicly against people who are being so vocal, that they have to see all the time.

That may be the case, but the navy/crossfield cohort is known for being super vocal and catered too.

I am a Crossfield parent and feel like I am being bullied and iced out of things for having a different opinion than some of our neighbors.

That’s par for the course in Northern Virginia on any subject. Disagree with an alpha, and you’re iced out and bullied!