Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Lee's Corner was never mentioned in the early plans. It makes no sense.

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We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Why should taxpayers pay the additional transportation costs to keep Crossfield at Oakton. Especially, since Oakton will soon be overcrowded?

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Lee's Corner was never mentioned in the early plans. It makes no sense.

Right it doesn’t make sense. But when the school board caters to whiners instead of making hard decisions, we end up with maps that make no sense. Crossfield is whining about going to the new school and Meren is whining about Fox Mill going there. So now they have to come up with an option that doesn’t involve either school. I suspect they’re then going to end up with a different group of people vocally complaining. Which is why they just need to use their own established criteria and make a damn decision.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

They are racist.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Doesn't this back up what PPs have been saying then that it's mostly parents of older kids fighting this? Younger kids will go there once it's already established.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Lee's Corner was never mentioned in the early plans. It makes no sense.

I think someone said that one of the Crossfield moms works at Gatehouse. They may have undue influence.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Lee's Corner was never mentioned in the early plans. It makes no sense.

Right it doesn’t make sense. But when the school board caters to whiners instead of making hard decisions, we end up with maps that make no sense. Crossfield is whining about going to the new school and Meren is whining about Fox Mill going there. So now they have to come up with an option that doesn’t involve either school. I suspect they’re then going to end up with a different group of people vocally complaining. Which is why they just need to use their own established criteria and make a damn decision.

At the SLHS PTA meeting, Meren said that she was going to decide where she stands when she sees the opt in numbers. I think she might be realizing that people choose Western even with all the confusion. She sounds like she is over all of this.

I really think they are going to use the opt in numbers. That tells them what communities have people who want to move. If that is the case, the question becomes what percentages are they looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Doesn't this back up what PPs have been saying then that it's mostly parents of older kids fighting this? Younger kids will go there once it's already established.

Yes. But the parents of younger kids need to be speaking up.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Where will they push Fox Mill and Crossfield to if Innovation ES is zoned to Western?

HHS and SLHS?

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

Lee's Corner was never mentioned in the early plans. It makes no sense.

Right it doesn’t make sense. But when the school board caters to whiners instead of making hard decisions, we end up with maps that make no sense. Crossfield is whining about going to the new school and Meren is whining about Fox Mill going there. So now they have to come up with an option that doesn’t involve either school. I suspect they’re then going to end up with a different group of people vocally complaining. Which is why they just need to use their own established criteria and make a damn decision.

At the SLHS PTA meeting, Meren said that she was going to decide where she stands when she sees the opt in numbers. I think she might be realizing that people choose Western even with all the confusion. She sounds like she is over all of this.

I really think they are going to use the opt in numbers. That tells them what communities have people who want to move. If that is the case, the question becomes what percentages are they looking for.

I bet it will mostly be people zoned for South Lakes and Westfield. Which does not help overcrowding at Chantilly. So will the move Chantilly zoned homes to Westfield to backfill it? They are such idiots.