Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is saying college radicalized him. Ffs.

What do you think radicalized him?

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It also must be said that pointing out that hard left Jewish organizations and donors have funded anti-American causes is a statement of fact. It is not anti-Semitic at all. Most religious Jews are horrified at this reality.

This relates to the Mormon shooter how exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:I vowed not to come back to this thread, but I just wanted to say as a Dem I’m so impressed with the Utah governor. He said this is watershed moment, but how remains to be seen though he hopes it’s used as an off ramp. He called out everyone, including naming GOP and MAGA to be civil and stop political violence.

He talked about Dems and Republicans coming together in Utah last night to talk about moving forward and even mentioned the toll watching violence on social media affects us.

Bravo! I see the tiniest light of hope thanks to this Republican. May he inspire people.

Indeed!

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Anonymous wrote:A white Mormon 22 year old from Utah is in custody. That sure screams liberal to me

LOL you should have searched his family before you opened your big mouth.

Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

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Anonymous wrote:A white Mormon 22 year old from Utah is in custody. That sure screams liberal to me

LOL you should have searched his family before you opened your big mouth.

They were being sarcastic.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.

If you had an 18 year old boy he would have heard of him. My college freshman said the killing was all his team talked about at practice yesterday. The team is a mix of conservative and liberal kids and opinions on Kirk ranged from adoration to disgust. He said they had a respectful discussion, which gave me great hope.

I'm struggling with adoration of hate and why people who were the targets of Kirk's hate need to be respectful.

What people or individuals were targeted of “Kirk’s hate”? When did he said he hated person XYZ or a group of people abc?

Or did he said he hates crime? Or murderers? Or hates the lack of morals out there?

What did he say he hated exactly? A thing? A concept? A proper noun person? A group of benign people? A country?

He said he wouldn’t feel comfortable with a Black pilot, no? Kind of hate adjacent.

Let’s put this in context….
Kirk’s comments were part of a broader critique of DEI. He was pointing out that when the emphasis on hiring is all about skin color and gender, then merit takes a back seat. Example: United Airlines goal to have 40% of its pilots be women or people of color which would relax the standards of hiring.
This is certainly a legitimate point about the potential effect of diversity initiatives on hiring standards.
When the focus is on skin color and gender, how can the public be certain that qualifications for pilots have not been compromised?

Context, and what was immediately being discussed, matters.

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Anonymous wrote:A white Mormon 22 year old from Utah is in custody. That sure screams liberal to me

LOL you should have searched his family before you opened your big mouth.

Your sarcasm detector appears to be broken.

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jsteele wrote:I am watching the press conference and Kash Patel is a complete embarrassment. MAGAs, do you really have faith in this guy? He started out saying, "This is what happens when you let cops be cops." Actually, this is what happens when family members turn the perp in. The FBI had not idea this guy was the shooter.

Just because his family turned him in on day 2 after the shooting, it does not mean they would not have found him in a few days using video, DNA, tips….

That's not what Patel was claiming. He is taking credit for the arrest.

Why do you care so much to make this an issue. The guy is caught. Great. Now let’s see why he did it and learn more about him.

The FBI gets credit for the initial info sent out to the public and images.


But if you want to “prove” you are so correct, yes they did it actually go out and handcuff him in person. But so what. This is really a point you want to focus on.?

I didn't realize that posting on a forum, a forum that I happen to own in fact, is caring "so much". I am posting my impression of the press conference. if you think that Patel is the greatest FBI director that ever lived, great. You do you. I think Patel wrongly attempted to take credit for something that he doesn't deserve. If it was not for the shooter's father, Patel would still be running around in circles like a Keystone Cop. This is not going to be the only time in this administration that we will need the FBI to do its job and the fact that it is being led by a fool concerns me. You are welcome to your own opinion.

Good grief. It took less than 2 days and the evidence law enforcement collected played a huge role. I get that you don’t like this administration and have a hatred toward Kash Patel, but I think it is curious that you cannot admit the role law enforcement played in this arrest. The father would have had no idea that his son was the killer were it not for the photos.
Don’t forget that other murders - like the killer of the healthcare CEO and the killer of the 4 college students have taken weeks to solve.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.

So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.

Slavic squat meme is not nasty right wing stuff. It’s just cultural appropriation.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is saying college radicalized him. Ffs.

What do you think radicalized him?

His parents? Seriously, probably 4chan.

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jsteele wrote:I am watching the press conference and Kash Patel is a complete embarrassment. MAGAs, do you really have faith in this guy? He started out saying, "This is what happens when you let cops be cops." Actually, this is what happens when family members turn the perp in. The FBI had not idea this guy was the shooter.

Just because his family turned him in on day 2 after the shooting, it does not mean they would not have found him in a few days using video, DNA, tips….

That's not what Patel was claiming. He is taking credit for the arrest.

Why do you care so much to make this an issue. The guy is caught. Great. Now let’s see why he did it and learn more about him.

The FBI gets credit for the initial info sent out to the public and images.


But if you want to “prove” you are so correct, yes they did it actually go out and handcuff him in person. But so what. This is really a point you want to focus on.?

I didn't realize that posting on a forum, a forum that I happen to own in fact, is caring "so much". I am posting my impression of the press conference. if you think that Patel is the greatest FBI director that ever lived, great. You do you. I think Patel wrongly attempted to take credit for something that he doesn't deserve. If it was not for the shooter's father, Patel would still be running around in circles like a Keystone Cop. This is not going to be the only time in this administration that we will need the FBI to do its job and the fact that it is being led by a fool concerns me. You are welcome to your own opinion.

Good grief. It took less than 2 days and the evidence law enforcement collected played a huge role. I get that you don’t like this administration and have a hatred toward Kash Patel, but I think it is curious that you cannot admit the role law enforcement played in this arrest. The father would have had no idea that his son was the killer were it not for the photos.
Don’t forget that other murders - like the killer of the healthcare CEO and the killer of the 4 college students have taken weeks to solve.

“Dad, I shot that guy” might have cried dad in?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a handsome really smart clean-cut kid.

Look how fast they pivoted from trans to autistic. These RWNJs are something else.

Well his parents, doctors and teachers will know.
What about it?
Why are certain kids getting self radicalized online?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA is saying college radicalized him. Ffs.

What do you think radicalized him?

He barely went to college according to the presser. Also, I find it odd that anyone would say anyone was radicalized because of college because thousands of college kids showed up to hear Charlie in every campus he attended, most of them in MAGA hats.

Please stop 🙏🏻

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Anonymous wrote:I vowed not to come back to this thread, but I just wanted to say as a Dem I’m so impressed with the Utah governor. He said this is watershed moment, but how remains to be seen though he hopes it’s used as an off ramp. He called out everyone, including naming GOP and MAGA to be civil and stop political violence.

He talked about Dems and Republicans coming together in Utah last night to talk about moving forward and even mentioned the toll watching violence on social media affects us.

Bravo! I see the tiniest light of hope thanks to this Republican. May he inspire people.

Indeed!

We could really use more true leadership. All politicians at least should see how stopping political assassinations should be a main goal, as well as lifting up civil dialogue.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to claim the alleged shooter is a centrist or lefty...

https://bsky.app/profile/iwriteok.bsky.social/post/3lynfxustfc2e

Nope.

So he was engaging with some really nasty right wing stuff on the internet as a teen and his parents apparently did no investigation into what he was copying. Great.

How are you getting that? The Governor of Utah at the press conference said the stuff they had found at the crime scene had anti-fascist writings on it. Those posts are all from 2020 - a lot can happen in 5 years. His family apparently also told investigators he became a lot more “political” recently.