Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

[Anonymous]

I can’t help but think this is another JB Ramsey. The local police tend to wanna get in a di€£ measuring contest with the feds. But the fact is they don’t have the resources or the experience. And another fact is the feds step aside and give all the glory to the locals at the end of the day.
Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update: DNA found on glove matching subject in doorbell footage. The glove was recovered in a field by the side of the road approx 2 miles and appears to match the gloves worn by abducted

They are relying on visual appearance thus far. Visually, the gloves match. But they don’t have the DNA test back yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update: DNA found on glove matching subject in doorbell footage. The glove was recovered in a field by the side of the road approx 2 miles and appears to match the gloves worn by abducted

I’m not sure what this means. They found a glove 2 miles away with the dna of a guy who has brown hair and a medium build? Was there a more definite suspect from the nest camera?

[Anonymous]

I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

Is just tossing your gloves on the ground a thing?

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

Have you heard of human trafficking? Those missing kids need to be saved and need media attention. This is an upsetting story, but it's getting to the point the supremacy of privilege is too much. Yes, I want to know the resolution, and I care about the well-being of this woman and pray she is alive. Just let us all know what happened when it is solved and perhaps do a story of anything we can do to keep our parents safe if it even applies to the rest of us if isn't just some awful criminal who watched the segment of Savannah visiting mom on TV and decided this would be a easy way to make money.

Trafficked children are not snatched from their beds in the middle of the night. Traffickers do not want to attract any attention so they focus on luring in children who are "off the radar," meaning they get runaways or homeless children to voluntarily go somewhere with them. Even in other countries, they heavily rely on tactics like convincing very poor parents to sell their children to the trafficker.

A lot of trafficked girls are groomed by slightly older boyfriends. A 15 year old with a 19 or 22 year old boyfriend, for example. Even the local news feeds are full of missing teen girls (mostly Latina) who left voluntarily late at night—presumably to meet up with a boyfriend. I didn’t realize how common it was until a girl from my kids HS went missing and then I looked at all the posts on the local police department feed. It is really scary.

Exactly- a 15 year old leaving voluntarily is classified as a runaway. They convince the girls to run away by grooming them, and they are able to groom them because they do not have a lot of supervision, or maybe not a lot of friends at school, etc etc. This is not blaming the girls or the families , obviously. But they target girls who will be easy to spend time with and who will be easy to convince to run away. Not girls who are the captain of the soccer team with a stay at home mom. Those girls don’t have the free time, don’t have the lack of supervision, and are enmeshed in their school/ sports community and would be harder to lure. The 15 year old who immigrated recently whose mom works 16 hours a day and who doesn’t have many friends, doesn’t play sports, isn’t a great student- that girl is much easier to lure without anyone noticing.

This is awful but is there a “market”, for lack of a better word, for elderly women too?

No.

If people want to take advantage of the elderly for financial gain it is much easier just to scam them--financial scams or romance scams.

I meant for sex crimes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

Is just tossing your gloves on the ground a thing?

My DH and I walk our dog every day together as part of our coffee run and are just commented the other day on how odd it is how many gloves are laying around- this is in Falls Church.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

Is just tossing your gloves on the ground a thing?

My DH and I walk our dog every day together as part of our coffee run and are just commented the other day on how odd it is how many gloves are laying around- this is in Falls Church.

I totally get this, but also feel like if you’re involved in a legit search, you should keep your gloves on!!

[Anonymous]

My gut screams that Annie and Tommaso are involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My gut screams that Annie and Tommaso are involved.

Again, people like you may be ruining the lives of innocent people at an already terrible time.

What incentive do they have to kidnap her? If it was financial, they could easily just have made it look like she died of natural causes and collect far more quickly on inheritance, so we know it wasn't money. And we know the ransom notes are likely fakes and not connected to the kidnapper.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: DNA found on glove matching subject in doorbell footage. The glove was recovered in a field by the side of the road approx 2 miles and appears to match the gloves worn by abducted

They are relying on visual appearance thus far. Visually, the gloves match. But they don’t have the DNA test back yet.

Visually, what gloves do not match? There didn’t appear to be any distinctive markers on video released.

I fear this will be an additional lost direction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update: DNA found on glove matching subject in doorbell footage. The glove was recovered in a field by the side of the road approx 2 miles and appears to match the gloves worn by abducted

They are relying on visual appearance thus far. Visually, the gloves match. But they don’t have the DNA test back yet.

Visually, what gloves do not match? There didn’t appear to be any distinctive markers on video released.

I fear this will be an additional lost direction.

They'll probably detain more person(s) just to say they did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update: DNA found on glove matching subject in doorbell footage. The glove was recovered in a field by the side of the road approx 2 miles and appears to match the gloves worn by abducted

They are relying on visual appearance thus far. Visually, the gloves match. But they don’t have the DNA test back yet.

Visually, what gloves do not match? There didn’t appear to be any distinctive markers on video released.

I fear this will be an additional lost direction.

I agree. I was just clarifying that there is no DNA match.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it means that of all the black gloves that were found discarded by the roadside (most were from volunteers that searched) they isolated one glove found 2 miles away, that they think is the same type of glove worn by the assailant. It was sent out to test for DNA.

Is just tossing your gloves on the ground a thing?

I'm having flashbacks to the OJ Simpson case. If the glove doesn't fit...you must acquit...or something like that

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Anonymous wrote:If she were not a news celebrity's mother, would we hear about it all day, and I mean all day? I do not remember this much coverage for children who go missing- beyond a few days, and there are children who go missing that we never hear about. It certainly an odd case, and there are so many questions, but it remains at the top of the news cycle.

most kids who go missing are taken by parents. Very few people are snatched out of their beds in the middle of the night and disappear into thin air. I think that’s a huge part of why this is getting so much attention.

It's getting attention because of the daughter. I guarantee you if you mother or mine had the same experience it would get little or no national press.