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Anonymous wrote:'21-'22 Predictions

1. VDA ECNL
2. Pipeline ECNL
3. FCV GA
4. Arlington GA
5. MD United ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. Bethesda ECNL
8. Loudoun ECNL
9. FC Frederick
10. Metro United GA

Have fun!

1. VDA ECNL
2. MD United ECNL
3. Loudoun ECNL
4. Pipline ECNL
5. Arlington ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. FCV GA
8. Bethesda ECNL
9. FC Federick
10. Metro United GA

This is closer but I still cannot see a world where a team with one league win last year is even on this list. Vienna should replace Bethesda who should sit in the corner with BRYC. Unless Bethesda has added several quality players I don’t see how their season improves in league play.

McLean/Virginia Union also only had one league win last year in league play. You can throw them in with BRYC and Bethesda. No different. You keep failing to group them in with your opinion of league wins for some reason....

Remember Chippy, these are just people's predictions for a year from now and they are just opinions. I side more with the original opinion piece with the exception of one or two that could be interchanged. I also think VYS could easily be 9 or 10.

Vienna beat Loudoun, which you put at No.3.

And Bethesda beat Loudoun twice, so? These are just people's opinions for next year. I wouldn't read into it too much. If one parent thinks Metro, McLean, Bethesda, or even VDA is not going to perform, it is just that persons opinion.

My opinion is that most GA/ECNL clubs will have attracted more players for next season. We know that SYC/McLean merger will help them get better. Other clubs will also have new players. Some will have new coaches.

IMO:

1. VDA ECNL
2. FC Virginia GA
3. Pipeline ECNL
4. MD United ECNL
5. Arlington ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. Bethesda ECNL
8. Loudoun ECNL
9. Metro United GA
10. VYS RL

MD United beat FCV 4-0. No way FCV is above MD United. Pipeline is also #1 in MD and FCV would stand no chance beating them either. FCV should be no higher than 4th in the DMV.

Bethesda is still way to optimistically ranked.

1. VDA ECNL
2. Pipeline ECNL
3. MD United ECNL
4. FC Virginia GA
5. Arlington ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. Loudoun ECNL
8. Metro United GA
9. Bethesda ECNL
10. VYS RL

I can agree with this list except for Metro. They have not beaten any team of note. Probably put FC Frederick in its place. Bethesda and Loudoun are a toss up. Even though Bethesda won over Loudoun 2x, they have some bad losses.

Metro was a new from scratch team last year with no game history to qualify for higher brackets at tournaments like Jeff Cup. They improved in the spring beating teams they lost to and significantly bringing the score down against teams above them in their Division. In a Covid year they had no opportunity to play any "teams of note" but they did appear to do their job in the spring. Basically, they can only play who is on the schedule.

They could be at 7th but are properly placed at 8th.

If Metro's league performance means they played no "teams of note" that should affect both FCV and Arlington's ranking because the logic would imply that GA teams are not "teams of note."

But the ranking actually adjusts for notch down of GA with all three GA teams on the list, of which Armor and Celtic Union are properly off this list.

Bethesda won one league game. Being in ECNL those are certainly "teams of note" and they failed to win. Putting them on this list is simply a gift due to being in ECNL and not much more.

This is why this subject cracks me up!!! Parents are not realistic and are biased.

Metro lost 2 games each to FCV and Arlington. The have not beat anyone of note. They also lost to South Carolina Surf at Jeff Cup.

Everyone seems to talk about Bethesda’s performance in its league but look at Mclean/VU. One win against BRYC in league play. They actually tied them in the 2nd time they played. Not a good look. Lost to Loudoun 2x and tied them once. Not one quality win but people think they are going to be so good next year. Please correct me if I am wrong but isn’t the SYC star midfielder going to VDA? Again, these are the results.

In contrast, Bethesda had only one win as well in league play over FC Bucks (interesting note, Loudoun lost 2-0 to Bucks recently) Huge contrast between FC Bucks and BRYC. Like, ginormous. Bethesda beat Loudoun 2x but for some reason everyone ignores that. They also beat Beach FC badly at Jeff Cup. Beach was undefeated in CCL league. Bethesda will also have a new coach next year who will be better than last years coach.

Now let’s look at Loudoun. Tie against VDA 2x, great! 2 wins and a tie against Mclean. 2 losses to Bethesda. Loss to Coppermine. Tie to Beach FC. Recent loss to FC Bucks who Bethesda beat. Recent loss to FC Delco who Bethesda tied.

Now, using these facts, who has the best resume of the bottom of this list? Your bias is showing!

So you point to Metro's 3 losses and Bethesda's two wins against another losing ECNL team and a win against a CCL team as Bethesda's "teams of note"? Ummmm, ok LOL

Bias is showing in glossing over all the league losses believing it somehow makes the team better. Bethesda's only wins come when it is punching down in tournaments and still manages two losses to Frederick. Your non-league record is 17 wins and 7 losses. BRYC's non league record is 9-2-1. Bethesda failed to win State Cup and lost to SYC and Frederick. Your non-league win percentage is worse than BRYC's.

Bethesda is not Elite, just merely better than average and the doormat of their division. You shouldn't be on the list and you shouldn't be looking down at any club including Metro.

Actually it is Metro’s 5 losses and not 3. So please tell me who Metro has actually won against again??? You completely ignored the actual facts. At least Bethesda has actually won against the other teams listed. Mclean and Metro have not. Mic Drop.

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Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

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1. VDA ECNL
2. Pipeline ECNL
3. MD United ECNL
4. FC Virginia GA
5. Arlington ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. Loudoun ECNL
8. Metro United GA
9. Bethesda ECNL
10. VYS RL

Is this just a DC area group or all of VA? There's a team from further south who puts teams in the mix in most all age groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

No. They would not beat those teams. Maybe they would be middle of the standing in the CCL or ECNL-r?

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Anonymous wrote:1. VDA ECNL
2. Pipeline ECNL
3. MD United ECNL
4. FC Virginia GA
5. Arlington ECNL
6. Virginia Union ECNL
7. Loudoun ECNL
8. Metro United GA
9. Bethesda ECNL
10. VYS RL

Is this just a DC area group or all of VA? There's a team from further south who puts teams in the mix in most all age groups.

Yes we all know DMV is weak. Look at ECNL and GA results.

1) VDA
2) Pipeline
3) FC
4) MDU
5) Union
6) Arlington
7) Loudoun or Loudon
8) Metro
9) VYS
10) beach
10) SYC

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ECNL North Atlantic PI Index
1. PDA Blue (1) 34.81
2. Pipeline ECNL (3) 32.99
3. Penn Fusion (2) 32.92
4. Match Fit (4) 32.32
5. FC Bucks (6) 31.84
6. Maryland United (5) 31.80
7. Bethesda (9) 31.06
8. PDA South (8) 30.75
9. FC Delco (7) 30.32
Average PI Index 32.09

GA Mid Atlantic PI Index
1. SJEB (1) 32.54
2. FCV (2) 32.16
3. Arlington (3) 31.91
4. Metro (4) 30.62
5. Sporting DE (5) 30.51
6. Cedar Stars (6) 29.62
7. Celtic Union (7) 29.49
8. Baltimore Armour (8) 29.24
9. Ukies Black (10) 28.14
10. Penn Classics (9) 28.04
Average PI Index 30.23

ECNL is clearly a much more competitive league for this age group when you compare the number. I didn't add ECNL Mid-Atlantic because there are many more teams and a difference in how many games were played. As for Bethesda and Metro, that seems to be a toss up so there isn't really any point in arguing. Either parent can justify their stance and agree to disagree. I believe this argument was actually about predictions for next year and not the past season. Hopefully some of these GA/ECNL teams meet in some tournaments. Good luck to you both next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

The facts are that Metro won their League games and Bethesda did not. You honestly believe that losing all but one ECNL league game means Bethesda is better than a team that wins their league games? Bethesda may be in ECNL but they haven’t proven to be competitive in the league.

It simply doesn’t matter if GA isn’t the same as the ECNL North Atlantic if you can’t win in your division. If Bethesda was actually competitive in ECNL you would absolutely have a point but losing all but one game is not being competitive. You beat ONE team who had a losing record. You have no ties. Metro, Frederick, SYC all could have accomplished what Bethesda did in league play. Would Metro have lost 13 games in the North Atlantic? Sure, but so did Bethesda. That’s the point.

And don’t forget, you also lost 7 games to non-ECNL teams as well. It’s not as if your team destroyed teams from lower leagues.

These are facts. Metro, just like you don’t control who they play against, they both take the field and play. When Bethesda takes the field in league games they lose. Losing to “better” teams does not mean you are better. Bethesda lost more games last year than Metro even played. Those are facts.

PDA dropped 12 goals on you. Bethesda had -25 Goal Differential. What ever you thought you were at U12 you are not now.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

No. They would not beat those teams. Maybe they would be middle of the standing in the CCL or ECNL-r?

No, they beat Beach 3-0 who was the top CCL team. They also beat FC Frederick who was 2nd in CCL and lost 2x to them by one goal and the other in PKs (season game would have gone down as a tie). They also beat DC Stoddert 4-0 who did not lose a single match by 4 goals in CCL play.

Again, these are just more facts. Please give facts if you want to justify an opinion. Out of league play games mean nothing if there is no substance. Any top tier team can have a great record if playing EDP III, Championship, or NCSL I or II, or CCL Championship.

I agree with the other posters here that any teams #4 though #12 can probably beat each other on any given day. Some teams play a MUCH tougher season than others however. Stop looking at records, start looking at quality of competition and how close the games are.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

The facts are that Metro won their League games and Bethesda did not. You honestly believe that losing all but one ECNL league game means Bethesda is better than a team that wins their league games? Bethesda may be in ECNL but they haven’t proven to be competitive in the league.

It simply doesn’t matter if GA isn’t the same as the ECNL North Atlantic if you can’t win in your division. If Bethesda was actually competitive in ECNL you would absolutely have a point but losing all but one game is not being competitive. You beat ONE team who had a losing record. You have no ties. Metro, Frederick, SYC all could have accomplished what Bethesda did in league play. Would Metro have lost 13 games in the North Atlantic? Sure, but so did Bethesda. That’s the point.

And don’t forget, you also lost 7 games to non-ECNL teams as well. It’s not as if your team destroyed teams from lower leagues.

These are facts. Metro, just like you don’t control who they play against, they both take the field and play. When Bethesda takes the field in league games they lose. Losing to “better” teams does not mean you are better. Bethesda lost more games last year than Metro even played. Those are facts.

PDA dropped 12 goals on you. Bethesda had -25 Goal Differential. What ever you thought you were at U12 you are not now.

Ok, you just lack common sense or rational thinking. You are 100% ignoring the quality of competition across the board because you have an agenda against Bethesda.

I have NEVER said we would destroy Metro, SYC, or Mclean. I am not cocky about our team. I know what are record is. I also know who we have beat when we play well. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day. The odds are better for the teams the higher you get. If you disagree and think Metro is going to beat VYS, Bethesda, SYC, or FC Frederick, 9 out of 10 times, I truly, truly feel sorry for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

The facts are that Metro won their League games and Bethesda did not. You honestly believe that losing all but one ECNL league game means Bethesda is better than a team that wins their league games? Bethesda may be in ECNL but they haven’t proven to be competitive in the league.

It simply doesn’t matter if GA isn’t the same as the ECNL North Atlantic if you can’t win in your division. If Bethesda was actually competitive in ECNL you would absolutely have a point but losing all but one game is not being competitive. You beat ONE team who had a losing record. You have no ties. Metro, Frederick, SYC all could have accomplished what Bethesda did in league play. Would Metro have lost 13 games in the North Atlantic? Sure, but so did Bethesda. That’s the point.

And don’t forget, you also lost 7 games to non-ECNL teams as well. It’s not as if your team destroyed teams from lower leagues.

These are facts. Metro, just like you don’t control who they play against, they both take the field and play. When Bethesda takes the field in league games they lose. Losing to “better” teams does not mean you are better. Bethesda lost more games last year than Metro even played. Those are facts.

PDA dropped 12 goals on you. Bethesda had -25 Goal Differential. What ever you thought you were at U12 you are not now.

Ok, you just lack common sense or rational thinking. You are 100% ignoring the quality of competition across the board because you have an agenda against Bethesda.

I have NEVER said we would destroy Metro, SYC, or Mclean. I am not cocky about our team. I know what are record is. I also know who we have beat when we play well. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day. The odds are better for the teams the higher you get. If you disagree and think Metro is going to beat VYS, Bethesda, SYC, or FC Frederick, 9 out of 10 times, I truly, truly feel sorry for you.

I’m not ignoring the quality of competition in ECNL. What is being ignored is the total lack of success against that competition. When you are pointing out a win against Beach and two close losses to Frederick, both play in leagues significantly lower than ECNL it only proves the point. Bethesda is closer to CCL competition than they are ECNL. I mean they are seriously bragging about going 2-2 against CCL’s “Best”. LOL.

A .500 record against their cherry picked games. Add in SYC and Bethesda is 2-3 against the Top CCL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

The facts are that Metro won their League games and Bethesda did not. You honestly believe that losing all but one ECNL league game means Bethesda is better than a team that wins their league games? Bethesda may be in ECNL but they haven’t proven to be competitive in the league.

It simply doesn’t matter if GA isn’t the same as the ECNL North Atlantic if you can’t win in your division. If Bethesda was actually competitive in ECNL you would absolutely have a point but losing all but one game is not being competitive. You beat ONE team who had a losing record. You have no ties. Metro, Frederick, SYC all could have accomplished what Bethesda did in league play. Would Metro have lost 13 games in the North Atlantic? Sure, but so did Bethesda. That’s the point.

And don’t forget, you also lost 7 games to non-ECNL teams as well. It’s not as if your team destroyed teams from lower leagues.

These are facts. Metro, just like you don’t control who they play against, they both take the field and play. When Bethesda takes the field in league games they lose. Losing to “better” teams does not mean you are better. Bethesda lost more games last year than Metro even played. Those are facts.

PDA dropped 12 goals on you. Bethesda had -25 Goal Differential. What ever you thought you were at U12 you are not now.

Ok, you just lack common sense or rational thinking. You are 100% ignoring the quality of competition across the board because you have an agenda against Bethesda.

I have NEVER said we would destroy Metro, SYC, or Mclean. I am not cocky about our team. I know what are record is. I also know who we have beat when we play well. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day. The odds are better for the teams the higher you get. If you disagree and think Metro is going to beat VYS, Bethesda, SYC, or FC Frederick, 9 out of 10 times, I truly, truly feel sorry for you.

I’m not ignoring the quality of competition in ECNL. What is being ignored is the total lack of success against that competition. When you are pointing out a win against Beach and two close losses to Frederick, both play in leagues significantly lower than ECNL it only proves the point. Bethesda is closer to CCL competition than they are ECNL. I mean they are seriously bragging about going 2-2 against CCL’s “Best”. LOL.

A .500 record against their cherry picked games. Add in SYC and Bethesda is 2-3 against the Top CCL teams.

The 2008s never played SYC. The 09s had to step in for that game. You are ignoring the ECNL competition. The North Atlantic is stacked with good teams. As an example, the Loudoun ECNL lost to the 7th, 8th and 9th place teams in the North Atlantic ECNL by a total of 1 Goal For to 8 Goals Against. Add MD United in and they are 1 GF to 11 GA. Loudoun finished 6th out of 13 in the Mid-Atlantic ECNL while Mclean Union finished 12th out of 13. You completely ignore this.

Why do you keep ignoring this and just attacking Bethesda but ignore other teams with similar results? If what you are posting is your true feelings, you should really group in that Metro is better than Loudoun and Mclean as well. But I know the real reason. It's because you have something against Bethesda Soccer Club. Admit it and I will drop it.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day.[/b] The odds are better for the teams the higher you get.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL North Atlantic PI Index
1. PDA Blue (1) 34.81
2. Pipeline ECNL (3) 32.99
3. Penn Fusion (2) 32.92
4. Match Fit (4) 32.32
5. FC Bucks (6) 31.84
6. Maryland United (5) 31.80
7. Bethesda (9) 31.06
8. PDA South (8) 30.75
9. FC Delco (7) 30.32
Average PI Index 32.09

GA Mid Atlantic PI Index
1. SJEB (1) 32.54
2. FCV (2) 32.16
3. Arlington (3) 31.91
4. Metro (4) 30.62
5. Sporting DE (5) 30.51
6. Cedar Stars (6) 29.62
7. Celtic Union (7) 29.49
8. Baltimore Armour (8) 29.24
9. Ukies Black (10) 28.14
10. Penn Classics (9) 28.04
Average PI Index 30.23

ECNL is clearly a much more competitive league for this age group when you compare the number. I didn't add ECNL Mid-Atlantic because there are many more teams and a difference in how many games were played. As for Bethesda and Metro, that seems to be a toss up so there isn't really any point in arguing. Either parent can justify their stance and agree to disagree. I believe this argument was actually about predictions for next year and not the past season. Hopefully some of these GA/ECNL teams meet in some tournaments. Good luck to you both next year.

YSR gives points for the league you play in and first team vs second team. ECNL is given more weight vs GA by YSR. Watch what happens when Arlington switches league. They will magic gain a point or two.

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And out of 16 games, only 4 of those games was decided by more than a two goal differential. Those losses came from two of the top 3 teams. One of which is a top 5 team in the United States.

Every other game was competitive and close games.

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Anonymous wrote:Metro has won a majority of the games they played. Bethesda has played “teams of note” and lost all of them. Losing in ECNL doesn’t mean you are better, especially when you lose against CCL teams.

Bethesda is a ECNL doormat. Enjoy your ECNL participation trophy. Dead last in your division. Just shut up already. Beat a winning team in your division and then you can talk. Amazing you don’t hear BRYC parents here bragging because they have common sense.

You continue to ignore facts. “Won majority of games”. Really? So if a team in NCSL, CCL, or EDP III goes undefeated in its league, I guess they are better than all of us?

Nobody is bragging and you are putting words in my mouth.

If Bethesda was in GA, they would likely finish above Metro and maybe Arlington. Mid-Atlantic GA is not nearly on the same level as North Atlantic or Mid-Atlantic ECNL.

You resort to insults when your argument is proven wrong.

The facts are that Metro won their League games and Bethesda did not. You honestly believe that losing all but one ECNL league game means Bethesda is better than a team that wins their league games? Bethesda may be in ECNL but they haven’t proven to be competitive in the league.

It simply doesn’t matter if GA isn’t the same as the ECNL North Atlantic if you can’t win in your division. If Bethesda was actually competitive in ECNL you would absolutely have a point but losing all but one game is not being competitive. You beat ONE team who had a losing record. You have no ties. Metro, Frederick, SYC all could have accomplished what Bethesda did in league play. Would Metro have lost 13 games in the North Atlantic? Sure, but so did Bethesda. That’s the point.

And don’t forget, you also lost 7 games to non-ECNL teams as well. It’s not as if your team destroyed teams from lower leagues.

These are facts. Metro, just like you don’t control who they play against, they both take the field and play. When Bethesda takes the field in league games they lose. Losing to “better” teams does not mean you are better. Bethesda lost more games last year than Metro even played. Those are facts.

PDA dropped 12 goals on you. Bethesda had -25 Goal Differential. What ever you thought you were at U12 you are not now.

Ok, you just lack common sense or rational thinking. You are 100% ignoring the quality of competition across the board because you have an agenda against Bethesda.

I have NEVER said we would destroy Metro, SYC, or Mclean. I am not cocky about our team. I know what are record is. I also know who we have beat when we play well. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day. The odds are better for the teams the higher you get. If you disagree and think Metro is going to beat VYS, Bethesda, SYC, or FC Frederick, 9 out of 10 times, I truly, truly feel sorry for you.

I’m not ignoring the quality of competition in ECNL. What is being ignored is the total lack of success against that competition. When you are pointing out a win against Beach and two close losses to Frederick, both play in leagues significantly lower than ECNL it only proves the point. Bethesda is closer to CCL competition than they are ECNL. I mean they are seriously bragging about going 2-2 against CCL’s “Best”. LOL.

A .500 record against their cherry picked games. Add in SYC and Bethesda is 2-3 against the Top CCL teams.

The 2008s never played SYC. The 09s had to step in for that game. You are ignoring the ECNL competition. The North Atlantic is stacked with good teams. As an example, the Loudoun ECNL lost to the 7th, 8th and 9th place teams in the North Atlantic ECNL by a total of 1 Goal For to 8 Goals Against. Add MD United in and they are 1 GF to 11 GA. Loudoun finished 6th out of 13 in the Mid-Atlantic ECNL while Mclean Union finished 12th out of 13. You completely ignore this.

Why do you keep ignoring this and just attacking Bethesda but ignore other teams with similar results? If what you are posting is your true feelings, you should really group in that Metro is better than Loudoun and Mclean as well. But I know the real reason. It's because you have something against Bethesda Soccer Club. Admit it and I will drop it.

Again, any team#4 through #12 can get a win on any given day.[/b] The odds are better for the teams the higher you get.

Totally agree about #4-#12, if the #4,5 or 6 don't put the other teams away early in a game, it's going to be very close.