She picked Tim

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Again, why are we giving any oxygen to these lamebrains going after a veteran who served for 24 years?


Ahem and which party is going bonkers over allegations of couch surfing and wearing a costume?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That’s why the moderator keeps deleting stuff about Walz.


Because a couple of socially awkward posters keep wanting to turn the conversation to trains or a couple of weeks in a 24 year career (which, by the way, isn’t even the most interesting facet of Walz’s experience) or whatever hyper-focused topic they find interesting, the rest of the conversation be damned.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That’s why the moderator keeps deleting stuff about Walz.


The moderator is under no obligation to keep false information on his board.
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Anonymous wrote:Jd is no longer in the military so did he abandon his troops?? I'm just really confused when someone can actually retire and get out of the military without it being abandonment?

My uncle retired after 20 years in the national guard to go to private sector. Many of his colleagues stayed in the service and are lifelong servicemen. He is still Friends with them to this day and never once have I ever thought he deserted his troop.
So are the Republicans saying once you enter the service you must also die in the service?? Because I thought those were suckers?


Did your uncle retire when his unit was under a deployment warning order and then not correct people when they thanked him for his service on the battlefield? Did he claim that he carried weapons of war when he was deployed to Italy?


- Walz submitted his retirement paperwork late 2004
- Walz announced he was running for Congress in February 2005
- Walz filed with the FEC in February 2005
- His unit didn't get its first notice of a possible Iraq deployment until March 17 2005 - AFTER Walz already filed his paperwork, AFTER Walz already started running for Congress
- Walz was retired from the Guard May 2005
- His unit didn't get its official deployment notice until June 2005
- His unit didn't deploy until March 2006, more than 18 months after Walz filed retirement paperwork and 10 months after he had already retired

Trying to claim he "suddenly abandoned his unit when they received deployment notice" doesn't add up.

Anyone claiming otherwise lacks basic calendar proficiency.


The chaplain of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s field artillery regiment said there is no excuse for the Democratic VP pick to have abandoned his National Guard unit before a critical deployment — not even running for Congress.

“In our world, to drop out after a WARNORD [warning order] is issued is cowardly, especially for a senior enlisted guy,” retired Capt. Corey Bjertness, now a pastor in Horace, North Dakota, told The Post.

Bjertness, 61, was the chaplain for the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery, of which Walz was command sergeant major before retiring in 2005, two months before the unit deployed to Iraq. Walz has said he did so to run for Congress, and he was elected the next year.

“Running for Congress is not an excuse,” Bjertness said of Walz’s decision to quit. “I stopped everything and went to war. I left my wife with three teenagers and a 6-year-old and I was gone for 19 months.”

Thomas Behrends, the command sergeant major who replaced Walz, previously told The Post of the Minnesota governor: “He had the opportunity to serve his country, and said ‘Screw you’ to the United States.”


Bjertness added that leaving his troops at such a critical time was irresponsible of Walz, who served for more than two decades with the Army National Guard in Nebraska and Minnesota.

“That means that a new master sergeant needs to come in and to get to know everyone. Their task is to keep everyone safe and healthy,” the pastor said


https://nypost.com/2024/08/09/us-news/chaplain-calls-tim-walz-cowardly-for-leaving-national-guard/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Again, why are we giving any oxygen to these lamebrains going after a veteran who served for 24 years?


Ahem and which party is going bonkers over allegations of couch surfing and wearing a costume?


Republicans nominated a weirdo who can’t hold down a job, changes names like changes shirts, wears eyeliner for some reason, and seems a little too focused on “female” fertility and childbearing.
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Anonymous wrote:Jd is no longer in the military so did he abandon his troops?? I'm just really confused when someone can actually retire and get out of the military without it being abandonment?

My uncle retired after 20 years in the national guard to go to private sector. Many of his colleagues stayed in the service and are lifelong servicemen. He is still Friends with them to this day and never once have I ever thought he deserted his troop.
So are the Republicans saying once you enter the service you must also die in the service?? Because I thought those were suckers?


Did your uncle retire when his unit was under a deployment warning order and then not correct people when they thanked him for his service on the battlefield? Did he claim that he carried weapons of war when he was deployed to Italy?


- Walz submitted his retirement paperwork late 2004
- Walz announced he was running for Congress in February 2005
- Walz filed with the FEC in February 2005
- His unit didn't get its first notice of a possible Iraq deployment until March 17 2005 - AFTER Walz already filed his paperwork, AFTER Walz already started running for Congress
- Walz was retired from the Guard May 2005
- His unit didn't get its official deployment notice until June 2005
- His unit didn't deploy until March 2006, more than 18 months after Walz filed retirement paperwork and 10 months after he had already retired

Trying to claim he "suddenly abandoned his unit when they received deployment notice" doesn't add up.

Anyone claiming otherwise lacks basic calendar proficiency.


The chaplain of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s field artillery regiment said there is no excuse for the Democratic VP pick to have abandoned his National Guard unit before a critical deployment — not even running for Congress.

“In our world, to drop out after a WARNORD [warning order] is issued is cowardly, especially for a senior enlisted guy,” retired Capt. Corey Bjertness, now a pastor in Horace, North Dakota, told The Post.

Bjertness, 61, was the chaplain for the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery, of which Walz was command sergeant major before retiring in 2005, two months before the unit deployed to Iraq. Walz has said he did so to run for Congress, and he was elected the next year.

“Running for Congress is not an excuse,” Bjertness said of Walz’s decision to quit. “I stopped everything and went to war. I left my wife with three teenagers and a 6-year-old and I was gone for 19 months.”

Thomas Behrends, the command sergeant major who replaced Walz, previously told The Post of the Minnesota governor: “He had the opportunity to serve his country, and said ‘Screw you’ to the United States.”


Bjertness added that leaving his troops at such a critical time was irresponsible of Walz, who served for more than two decades with the Army National Guard in Nebraska and Minnesota.

“That means that a new master sergeant needs to come in and to get to know everyone. Their task is to keep everyone safe and healthy,” the pastor said


https://nypost.com/2024/08/09/us-news/chaplain-calls-tim-walz-cowardly-for-leaving-national-guard/


Trains! Let’s talk about trains some more!
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Anonymous wrote:Terrible choice. Did everybody else turn her down?


That’s what people are saying. He’s the turd democrats have smeared glitter on, but a sparkly turd is a sparkly turd.

"Many people are saying"

Where have I heard that before?


The One Vice Presidential Pick Who Could Ruin Democratic Unity
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is a leading candidate to be Kamala Harris’s running mate. Selecting him would fracture the party.
https://newrepublic.com/article/184151/one-vice-president-ruin-democratic-unity-josh-shapiro

Kamala could not pick Shapiro because democrats are anti-Semitic.


The ugly truth is there is a segment of the Democratic Party that is highly anti Semitic and their votes are essential to the Harris/ Walz ticket. Just spend some time on AM talk radio and see for yourself.

Why would listening to a bunch of extremist right wingers on am talk radio teach anyone anything? Honestly I am getting a little chuckle out of your bananas take.
Anonymous
From the right wing telling of this swiftboating tale, you’d think that without Tim Walz, the entire military apparatus fell apart. He sounds like he was that integral to every level of decision making, especially for Behrends, who seems especially bereft to no longer have competent leadership. Am I reading that right? He’s still harping on the loss twenty years later, so all I’m getting is that Behrends and the military were so reliant on Walz that they’re still processing his loss as a boss.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From the right wing telling of this swiftboating tale, you’d think that without Tim Walz, the entire military apparatus fell apart. He sounds like he was that integral to every level of decision making, especially for Behrends, who seems especially bereft to no longer have competent leadership. Am I reading that right? He’s still harping on the loss twenty years later, so all I’m getting is that Behrends and the military were so reliant on Walz that they’re still processing his loss as a boss.


Behrends didn’t know Walz. He was not in Tim’s unit. The MN NG had to replace Walz with a competent CSM who had graduated the Academy and would volunteer to leave his family on short notice to deploy with Tim’s unit.

You are absolutely wrong and have no clue what you’re talking about.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jd is no longer in the military so did he abandon his troops?? I'm just really confused when someone can actually retire and get out of the military without it being abandonment?

My uncle retired after 20 years in the national guard to go to private sector. Many of his colleagues stayed in the service and are lifelong servicemen. He is still Friends with them to this day and never once have I ever thought he deserted his troop.
So are the Republicans saying once you enter the service you must also die in the service?? Because I thought those were suckers?


Did your uncle retire when his unit was under a deployment warning order and then not correct people when they thanked him for his service on the battlefield? Did he claim that he carried weapons of war when he was deployed to Italy?


- Walz submitted his retirement paperwork late 2004
- Walz announced he was running for Congress in February 2005
- Walz filed with the FEC in February 2005
- His unit didn't get its first notice of a possible Iraq deployment until March 17 2005 - AFTER Walz already filed his paperwork, AFTER Walz already started running for Congress
- Walz was retired from the Guard May 2005
- His unit didn't get its official deployment notice until June 2005
- His unit didn't deploy until March 2006, more than 18 months after Walz filed retirement paperwork and 10 months after he had already retired

Trying to claim he "suddenly abandoned his unit when they received deployment notice" doesn't add up.

Anyone claiming otherwise lacks basic calendar proficiency.


The chaplain of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz’s field artillery regiment said there is no excuse for the Democratic VP pick to have abandoned his National Guard unit before a critical deployment — not even running for Congress.

“In our world, to drop out after a WARNORD [warning order] is issued is cowardly, especially for a senior enlisted guy,” retired Capt. Corey Bjertness, now a pastor in Horace, North Dakota, told The Post.

Bjertness, 61, was the chaplain for the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery, of which Walz was command sergeant major before retiring in 2005, two months before the unit deployed to Iraq. Walz has said he did so to run for Congress, and he was elected the next year.

“Running for Congress is not an excuse,” Bjertness said of Walz’s decision to quit. “I stopped everything and went to war. I left my wife with three teenagers and a 6-year-old and I was gone for 19 months.”

Thomas Behrends, the command sergeant major who replaced Walz, previously told The Post of the Minnesota governor: “He had the opportunity to serve his country, and said ‘Screw you’ to the United States.”


Bjertness added that leaving his troops at such a critical time was irresponsible of Walz, who served for more than two decades with the Army National Guard in Nebraska and Minnesota.

“That means that a new master sergeant needs to come in and to get to know everyone. Their task is to keep everyone safe and healthy,” the pastor said


https://nypost.com/2024/08/09/us-news/chaplain-calls-tim-walz-cowardly-for-leaving-national-guard/


Trains! Let’s talk about trains some more!


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Anonymous wrote:From the right wing telling of this swiftboating tale, you’d think that without Tim Walz, the entire military apparatus fell apart. He sounds like he was that integral to every level of decision making, especially for Behrends, who seems especially bereft to no longer have competent leadership. Am I reading that right? He’s still harping on the loss twenty years later, so all I’m getting is that Behrends and the military were so reliant on Walz that they’re still processing his loss as a boss.


Behrends didn’t know Walz. He was not in Tim’s unit. The MN NG had to replace Walz with a competent CSM who had graduated the Academy and would volunteer to leave his family on short notice to deploy with Tim’s unit.

You are absolutely wrong and have no clue what you’re talking about.

I said “from the the right wing telling.” I’m making fun of you and the rest of the Republicans who are all now experts in military readiness and military retirement. It’s sour grapes because Walz served TWENTY FOUR YEARS to Vance’s paltry four.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Terrible choice. Did everybody else turn her down?


That’s what people are saying. He’s the turd democrats have smeared glitter on, but a sparkly turd is a sparkly turd.

"Many people are saying"

Where have I heard that before?


The One Vice Presidential Pick Who Could Ruin Democratic Unity
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is a leading candidate to be Kamala Harris’s running mate. Selecting him would fracture the party.
https://newrepublic.com/article/184151/one-vice-president-ruin-democratic-unity-josh-shapiro

Kamala could not pick Shapiro because democrats are anti-Semitic.


The ugly truth is there is a segment of the Democratic Party that is highly anti Semitic and their votes are essential to the Harris/ Walz ticket. Just spend some time on AM talk radio and see for yourself.

Why would listening to a bunch of extremist right wingers on am talk radio teach anyone anything? Honestly I am getting a little chuckle out of your bananas take.


That is not the group and the other poster who responded is also incorrect.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From the right wing telling of this swiftboating tale, you’d think that without Tim Walz, the entire military apparatus fell apart. He sounds like he was that integral to every level of decision making, especially for Behrends, who seems especially bereft to no longer have competent leadership. Am I reading that right? He’s still harping on the loss twenty years later, so all I’m getting is that Behrends and the military were so reliant on Walz that they’re still processing his loss as a boss.


Behrends didn’t know Walz. He was not in Tim’s unit. The MN NG had to replace Walz with a competent CSM who had graduated the Academy and would volunteer to leave his family on short notice to deploy with Tim’s unit.

You are absolutely wrong and have no clue what you’re talking about.

I said “from the the right wing telling.” I’m making fun of you and the rest of the Republicans who are all now experts in military readiness and military retirement. It’s sour grapes because Walz served TWENTY FOUR YEARS to Vance’s paltry four.


I am an expert because I am an enlisted retired military veteran. I served 27 to Walz’s 24. I deployed with my Soldiers and faced hardships with them and remember and honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice.
Anonymous
Her first mistake of many to come.
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Anonymous wrote:Did any of those guys serve with Walz?

The guy in Nebraska that brought all that up has been pissed at him since they were in the Guard together and Tim got the promotion that guy wanted (which then he GOT when Walz left). I found his DB page, he's the local guy who is all about the military (and the local American Legion post) and sportsmen's (aka hunting) groups and his farm and dissing anything faintly liberal. He is one guy, who happens to be pretty hard core classic rural midwestern right winger who hates Democrats and progressives. And there are plenty of military vets who find it disgusting that he insults a fellow veteran.

Walz did 24 years. He trashed his hearing with howitzers so that he required surgery. He was in the Guard when we invaded Iraq in 1990, when the WTC and DC were hit, and a full 2 years into the Iraq invasion. I have no idea what his opinion was about that. I do recall that although I did not agree with the invasion, there was a moment when Collin Powell spoke when I thought the people in intelligence and the military know stuff we are not able to and maybe they're right. As it turned out, they didn't and they weren't.

It's pretty weird that otoh Vance complains "we were lied to" and that same people are going after Walz for choosing to run for Congress and retiring from the Guard. I mean really, if he did "chicken out" (for which there s zero evidence) doesn't that make him a winner in the Trump value system?



Tim never graduated from the SMA and thus was never promoted to SMA or CSM. He seras a CSM pending his successful completion of the SMA. When he retired, the SMA who replaced him had already graduated from the SMA and had to volunteer to take Tim’s place and leave his family and farm to do so. The CSM who volunteered to replace Walz spent 17 months in the combat zone with Walz’s former unit. He was already promoted beyond what Walz ever achieved because Walz didn’t graduate from the SMA. I don’t know what kind of disinformation you are trying to spread but it’s wrong to lie about a CSM who volunteered to go in Tim’s place and a Soldier who actually graduated from the SMA while you lie about his life and performance as a Soldier who deployed and served in combat.


Calling you out is not “disinformation “. You are being dishonest and yes, you’re going to be called out on that.

Lots of us understand how promotions and retirement work and your hyper-partisan spin on this man’s noble service is not going to fly.
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