Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, a handsome really smart clean-cut kid.

Look how fast they pivoted from trans to autistic. These RWNJs are something else.

Could his defense use autism as a mitigating factor against the death penalty?

Is there any actual evidence that the shooter is autistic though.

None.

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The reality is these public and mass shooters are overwhelmingly young white men. As someone who is a mother to a young white boy, yes, I do think it is my responsibility to recognize that as a problem and counteract it.

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jsteele wrote:I am watching the press conference and Kash Patel is a complete embarrassment. MAGAs, do you really have faith in this guy? He started out saying, "This is what happens when you let cops be cops." Actually, this is what happens when family members turn the perp in. The FBI had not idea this guy was the shooter.

Just because his family turned him in on day 2 after the shooting, it does not mean they would not have found him in a few days using video, DNA, tips….

That's not what Patel was claiming. He is taking credit for the arrest.

Why do you care so much to make this an issue. The guy is caught. Great. Now let’s see why he did it and learn more about him.

The FBI gets credit for the initial info sent out to the public and images.


But if you want to “prove” you are so correct, yes they did it actually go out and handcuff him in person. But so what. This is really a point you want to focus on.?

Why do YOU care so much about defending someone who is so obviously incompetent??? This is an important position, you know. Some of us actually believe in government roles and want competent people in charge.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many of you leftists have no idea why Kirk's assassination has turned into such a big deal.

Kirk was doing it "the right way" according to the left. Disagree politely, listen, give the other side space.

And he was killed because leftists didn't like what he had to say (as this thread amply shows) and they didn't want him to keep saying it.

Lots and lots of the "Democrat base" are celebrating and cheering the deliberate murder of someone who had the guts to publicly disagree with the left. "Debate this!" I see the signs being posted on college campuses, with a drawing of Kirk bleeding out from his neck.

So.

What value is there is "peace" and "restraint" when leftists murdered the most prominent guy on the right who was all about peace and restraint? And celebrate his death?

If you leftists are so glad to see Kirk killed... well, there's no possibility of peace, is there. He WAS the "peaceful solution". And leftists murdered him for it. Or at least are very happy about it.

If Kirk is not acceptable to the left.... we all know you guys would GLADLY kill the rest of us, too.

Kirk was a sort of "ambassador" to the left... and he was murdered because of it. What happens when an ambassador is killed? That's a casus belli and has been since Ghengis Khan, at the very least.

I don’t appreciate the broad generalization happening here. First off, this person probably worked alone, 75 million people and or anyone official is involved here. I have no control over what others say or do. And I think “lots” is an exaggeration. The celebrators are a minority amongst a large group of people.

It's been less than 24 hours since he was killed, and I've already seen coworkers, people just out in public - and certainly a lot of people on this very board, openly cheering that he was killed.

I think you're wrong in thinking that this is a 'small' segment of people on the left. I wasn't even looking, and saw dozens of examples of it, less than a day after he was killed.

I didn't agree with much of anything Charlie Kirk said. But first and foremost, he was a human being, with a wife and two young kids that will now grow up without a father. I'm deeply disappointed and kind of shocked by my own political party at the moment. There's some sickening stuff being said on reddit/bluesky/twitter, and it's not even been a day.

If you have receipts, then post them.

The party of free speech has assembled a website doxxing people online who have criticized Kirk calling it “Charlie’s Murderers.” Real normal behavior there.

Are you saying that site is officially sponsored by the Republican Party? If so, can you please provide proof of this?

Also, while the name of the site is hyperbolic (obviously to get clicks), it would appear to be a collection of postings that is no different than any other site (regardless of political alignment) that assembles outrageous statements to amplify and call attention to them. Isn't this what politicians and political activists do every day? That would seem to be "normal" behavior (aside from the site name itself). The disgusting postings it collects seem to be abnormal behavior.

By the way, "Free Speech" only relates to the right of the government to restrict your speech. Even in that context, while you are free to say what you want, you are not free from the consequences of such speech by the broader society in general.

I think that the wider point is that a great deal of his audience seems to be comprised of violent hypocritical lunatics.

Ah, so someone who watched Charlie Kirk created the website? That's a far cry from being officially sponsored by the Republican Party. By your logic, the Democratic Party is officially responsible for every website and social media post by anyone who watches left-wing influencers?

Charlie Kirk's audience included people on the Right and the Left, so I guess you're speaking for both....

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Anonymous wrote:Of course Kirk’s killer is a leftist. His action spoke it.

His family may or may not be.

Plenty of leftists grow out of right leaning families. Just read posts in DCUM. How many were talking about disowning other family members when the election ended.

he is not gay, he is not trans, he is not a minority...the right alleged ALL of these things over the last 48 hours.

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Anonymous wrote:From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.

Sounds like a dog whistle

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Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.

He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.

We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?

White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.

I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.

Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.

Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.

I think a big part of the problem in the US is that we kept up segregation for too long and didn’t make enough effort to purposely mix people up. It was resisted through redlining, and shutting public schools down. We aren’t even 100 years out from desegregation. Other countries in the Caribbean and South America that had slave trade and immigration have had a much longer period of time to merge into one culture.

Diversity, dispersity.

America pre 1980s was a melting pot of baseball and soccer games outside with all languages, creeds, countries, generations.

But 1990s on it was enclaves, failed multiculturalism, sanctuary cities, ESOL and Touch 1 for languages, etc.

Multiculturalism enclaves failed here and failed in UK and europe. No one gives two F’s about where they moved to except to recreate their homeland here and remit $$$ billions back there as well.

That's not what the 90s were like. There is nothing wrong with multiculturalism. That's how pizza, hamburgers, croissants, ice cream cones, nacho cheese, pho, and chicken tikka masala were invented. Manga, K-Pop, rock n' roll, jazz. The list is endless and it all comes from cultural cross pollination.

The dofderence nowadays is the internet and social media algorithms.

Difference is huge enclaves in sanctuary cities (MoCo, La, Fairfax, Detroit, Minnesota, etc) where no one cares to speak English or do anything but recreate their home religion, land and laws. Zero interaction with anyone but 1-2 gen same immigrants.

You talking about 100 years ago, or now? Can't tell. I mean, my Italian immigrant family did the same, recreated their village in apt buildings in nyc. Maybe read some history?

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Anonymous wrote:From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.

They're cosplaying. It's a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.

And honestly disrespectful. Christians obviously don't believe in Valhalla.

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I hope this guy feels guilty as hell for the chaos he caused this week.

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Anonymous wrote:The call is coming from inside the house:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086467/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-killer-identified-Utah-Trump.html

Tyler Robinson:

- A White Mormon from Utah

- High achiever: 4.0 GPA, high test scores, college

- Grew up in a two-parent family in a $600,000 house in an affluent area.

- Father is a cop: a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Utah Sheriff's Department

- Family photos show smiling Mom, strong Dad, 3 happy boys

- Added bonus: also lots of photos of the family enjoying guns together.

College,just like Kirk warned us about. He took an incredible risk by constantly visiting colleges, after he survived (dropped out) and stood up to speak out against college.

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Anonymous wrote:From Patel: “To my friend, Charlie Kirk: Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I’ll see you in Valhalla,” he said.

It's just SO corny.

Patel five minutes after he dies:

OMG WHY IS VALHALLA SO HOT!? OW OW OW!

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Anonymous wrote:Of course Kirk’s killer is a leftist. His action spoke it.

His family may or may not be.

Plenty of leftists grow out of right leaning families. Just read posts in DCUM. How many were talking about disowning other family members when the election ended.

he is not gay, he is not trans, he is not a minority...the right alleged ALL of these things over the last 48 hours.

Looks like MAGA ain’t raisin’ them correctly

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this guy feels guilty as hell for the chaos he caused this week.

He’s dead, so he can’t feel anything.