Valor

[Anonymous]

It would be strange to start coaching with U15. Don't people generally start out with younger age groups

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be strange to start coaching with U15. Don't people generally start out with younger age groups

valor just hires warm bodies ftmp

[Anonymous]

tryout information? coaching slate? I cant find it! help me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents really assume that an alliance means that their child has a better chance of getting a spot on a team. We all agree it’s a gimmick, right?

One would think since this isn’t Valor’s first rodeo, they agreed to take at least one kid per team. Lessons learned from NVA. If not, it will be an utter failure and PE will be looking for a new job.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I’m new in all this. What do you mean by “they take one kid per team”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:tryout information? coaching slate? I cant find it! help me!

They don't hold tryouts until well after other clubs, and last year they posted the coaches pretty late (maybe a week or two prior to tryouts?), and even then, half the teams were "TBD". It seems like they struggle to hire qualified people. Not sure if that's because they are disorganized or the owners are difficult to deal with, or if they try to lowball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents really assume that an alliance means that their child has a better chance of getting a spot on a team. We all agree it’s a gimmick, right?

One would think since this isn’t Valor’s first rodeo, they agreed to take at least one kid per team. Lessons learned from NVA. If not, it will be an utter failure and PE will be looking for a new job.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I’m new in all this. What do you mean by “they take one kid per team”?

PP is saying that Valor made an "alliance" with NVA but didn't get anything in writing from NVA on how many "Valor" players would be rostered on the NVA teams, and NVA basically took almost zero Valor kids. So Valor promised parents a "path" to higher league play but Valor kids didn't have a path in reality.

The new alliance with FVU from what I have heard is the same-no official guarantees in writing of X number of Valor kids per team. Not really sure what this "deal" gets Valor besides marketing to naive parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents really assume that an alliance means that their child has a better chance of getting a spot on a team. We all agree it’s a gimmick, right?

One would think since this isn’t Valor’s first rodeo, they agreed to take at least one kid per team. Lessons learned from NVA. If not, it will be an utter failure and PE will be looking for a new job.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I’m new in all this. What do you mean by “they take one kid per team”?

PP is saying that Valor made an "alliance" with NVA but didn't get anything in writing from NVA on how many "Valor" players would be rostered on the NVA teams, and NVA basically took almost zero Valor kids. So Valor promised parents a "path" to higher league play but Valor kids didn't have a path in reality.

The new alliance with FVU from what I have heard is the same-no official guarantees in writing of X number of Valor kids per team. Not really sure what this "deal" gets Valor besides marketing to naive parents.

As it should be. No sane person would put something like that in writing. It is setting you up for disaster.

[Anonymous]

The alliance will get FVU field space and the lower teams will move to grass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The alliance will get FVU field space and the lower teams will move to grass.

According to posters here, Valor doesn't have any field space. They sneak around on cya rec permits. FVU--a separate entity--cannot use fields permitted to CYA. Rec programs get better dibs on fields over programs like FVU that don't have rec kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The alliance will get FVU field space and the lower teams will move to grass.

According to posters here, Valor doesn't have any field space. They sneak around on cya rec permits. FVU--a separate entity--cannot use fields permitted to CYA. Rec programs get better dibs on fields over programs like FVU that don't have rec kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The alliance will get FVU field space and the lower teams will move to grass.

According to posters here, Valor doesn't have any field space. They sneak around on cya rec permits. FVU--a separate entity--cannot use fields permitted to CYA. Rec programs get better dibs on fields over programs like FVU that don't have rec kids.

Exactly the problem TSJ had with getting space

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know its not a great option but with RTO we need better carpooling options and are thinking of downgrading clubs due to proximity. Does anyone have any experience with AK, the coach of the 2010 boys 2nd level team? When I googled nothing came up but college. Is this his first coaching job?

I hate to pay more for an inferior product, but 2 working parents commuting 5 days per week is limiting our choices.

Valor switches the coaches around every season so he might not be the coach next year. Wait until they finally announce who is coaching and then go watch a game that guy coaches. Of course not an option if they hire another inexperienced new guy for next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents really assume that an alliance means that their child has a better chance of getting a spot on a team. We all agree it’s a gimmick, right?

One would think since this isn’t Valor’s first rodeo, they agreed to take at least one kid per team. Lessons learned from NVA. If not, it will be an utter failure and PE will be looking for a new job.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I’m new in all this. What do you mean by “they take one kid per team”?

PP is saying that Valor made an "alliance" with NVA but didn't get anything in writing from NVA on how many "Valor" players would be rostered on the NVA teams, and NVA basically took almost zero Valor kids. So Valor promised parents a "path" to higher league play but Valor kids didn't have a path in reality.

The new alliance with FVU from what I have heard is the same-no official guarantees in writing of X number of Valor kids per team. Not really sure what this "deal" gets Valor besides marketing to naive parents.

No club will promise X number of slots to anyone. Most clubs will defer to the best players who show up to tryouts. But in most cases, there might be 1 player at tryouts who has the skill to start and about 5-10 of players who "could" be rostered and play for an ECNL-N team.

This alliance is really more for the younger players. If a player shows real promise and is blowing away the competition at Valor, this FVU alliance gives a chance for the player to practice and get seen by FVU coaches and hopefully move over to FVU full time. Most of tryouts is about being seen by the coaches and if the coach knows the player, that is most of the battle.

[Anonymous]

If a player is so so good that they are blowing away all the other travel players, they have a shot at making any high level team. Nothing about this "alliance" gives that kid an edge over any other kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do parents really assume that an alliance means that their child has a better chance of getting a spot on a team. We all agree it’s a gimmick, right?

One would think since this isn’t Valor’s first rodeo, they agreed to take at least one kid per team. Lessons learned from NVA. If not, it will be an utter failure and PE will be looking for a new job.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I’m new in all this. What do you mean by “they take one kid per team”?

PP is saying that Valor made an "alliance" with NVA but didn't get anything in writing from NVA on how many "Valor" players would be rostered on the NVA teams, and NVA basically took almost zero Valor kids. So Valor promised parents a "path" to higher league play but Valor kids didn't have a path in reality.

The new alliance with FVU from what I have heard is the same-no official guarantees in writing of X number of Valor kids per team. Not really sure what this "deal" gets Valor besides marketing to naive parents.

No club will promise X number of slots to anyone. Most clubs will defer to the best players who show up to tryouts. But in most cases, there might be 1 player at tryouts who has the skill to start and about 5-10 of players who "could" be rostered and play for an ECNL-N team.

This alliance is really more for the younger players. If a player shows real promise and is blowing away the competition at Valor, this FVU alliance gives a chance for the player to practice and get seen by FVU coaches and hopefully move over to FVU full time. Most of tryouts is about being seen by the coaches and if the coach knows the player, that is most of the battle.

So there are concrete plans in writing for joint practices for any Valor kid tobe able to practice with NVU teams? That's part of the agreement?