Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m tired of republicans lying

Every single vote is public record

Funds for border security they voted NO
Funds for Veterans they vote no
Funds for anything for a wall at the border they voted no

When you scream might want to scream at Republicans

Also they own the House learn civics that is their job not Biden’s.

Jesus freaks please go back to school your cult brains are demented

And Republicans gave no funding to hire judges and staff to deal with the asylum claim backlog even though we know 80% plus don't qualify for asylum and the backlog on hearings is already all the way out to 2031 now.

Republicans are making no changes to the laws that would allow asylum seekers to work while their cases are pending, so we end up having to put them up in hotels and feed them.

Republicans are making no changes to the law such that the many who their businesses hire could actually get visas to come here and work legally

Republicans are still pushing that stale "build a wall" mentality when the wall was being cut through with cheap battery powered angle grinders

Republicans still don't want to deal with the international issues that are pushing migrants out of their home countries in the first place, because they are "shithole countries" per their Orange Stable Genius.

Republicans only flap their jaws and let the problems persist, because they think they can milk it for political gain. Anyone with a brain can see right through it. But people who still stand by Republicans and think they have the answers... are lacking a brain.

[Anonymous]

There are more illegals arriving each month than there are children being born to American mothers.

[Anonymous]

Here’s another fun stat…

https://x.com/fentasyl/status/1719166530762539288?s=20

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are more illegals arriving each month than there are children being born to American mothers.

The craziest part is that I’m not surprised.

[Anonymous]

Who will fill the low wage jobs? Republicans keep maligning education, in the hopes that an uneducated population will produce more poor babies. Importing workers is a better plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m tired of republicans lying

Every single vote is public record

Funds for border security they voted NO
Funds for Veterans they vote no
Funds for anything for a wall at the border they voted no

When you scream might want to scream at Republicans

Also they own the House learn civics that is their job not Biden’s.

Jesus freaks please go back to school your cult brains are demented

And Republicans gave no funding to hire judges and staff to deal with the asylum claim backlog even though we know 80% plus don't qualify for asylum and the backlog on hearings is already all the way out to 2031 now.

Republicans are making no changes to the laws that would allow asylum seekers to work while their cases are pending, so we end up having to put them up in hotels and feed them.

Republicans are making no changes to the law such that the many who their businesses hire could actually get visas to come here and work legally

Republicans are still pushing that stale "build a wall" mentality when the wall was being cut through with cheap battery powered angle grinders

Republicans still don't want to deal with the international issues that are pushing migrants out of their home countries in the first place, because they are "shithole countries" per their Orange Stable Genius.

Republicans only flap their jaws and let the problems persist, because they think they can milk it for political gain. Anyone with a brain can see right through it. But people who still stand by Republicans and think they have the answers... are lacking a brain.

I think a lot of people (at least those of us who don’t see one party as the evil enemy and the other as the savior) understand that on something like immigration… most of them are just talk. They love the cheap, exploitable labor. (Especially the Republicans from AG heavy districts).

This is where “bipartisan” immigration reform bills have come from. And it’s why it always seems like “the far right extremists block it”. For most of those bills the “fix” is to simply turn undocumented into documented, expanding legal pathways, and then some stuff like extra funding more more/new tech, a border fence, more agents. Etc. Big giveaways to businesses. Doesn’t actually affect any pull factors, or internal enforcement (get past the border and keep your head down and you’re pretty much able to stay)

That’s not what the base want, and not what most Americans want either. A supermajority would rather see employers raise wages to attract Americans, implement training like in the old days (what’s the deal with an entry level position requiring a degree along with a couple years of experience? How does one get experience if entry level jobs require previous experience?!); a large majority would prefer to see a more merit based system that allows well educated and skilled professionals and their immediate family;

And although the polling is often framed as “most Americans support current levels of immigration or even higher”—
You can actually (and more honestly) say:

“most Americans would prefer the same amount of immigration or lower (the amount who want lower numbers has also been higher than those who want more), stricter enforcement on employers who hire undocumented migrants, see wages rise before turning to visa-labor, and have the the system reformed to put a greater focus on skill/education!”


One of the two things that got Trump nominated and then elected was his focus on immigration restriction. I mean he completely demolished every other Republican in the primaries in 2016 and seems like he will do so again in a few months. A large amount of the GOP base aren’t as interested in the economic conservatism and austerity economics of gutting safety nets as they were 10+ years ago. Why do you think most mainstream Republicans run against culture issues that seem insane unless you’re living in a dark blue big city? They use them as an “in” but either go way too extreme and face pushback (trying to completely ban Abortion) or just don’t do anything substantial other than bringing stuff back to how it was a few years ago… all while putting most their effort in gutting government programs, cutting regulations, reducing taxes for their buddies. Etc.

I can crap on Republicans all day about their blatant two-faced, not trying to fix things, actions. But at least they are starting to come around to voter preferences on immigration. With Democrats, jeeze up til they had to deal with a fraction of the issue first hand in places like Chicago and NYC, any sort of enforcement was “inhumane, and cruel”, look at the large progressive caucus in the house. Completely and utter denial of anything outside their little bubble. Who’d rather become minorities and lose the executive rather than sign on to a policy that they view as “cruel” and “goes against our values”. Smh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are more illegals arriving each month than there are children being born to American mothers.

This is a perfect chart to describe the left's opinion of natural born Americans.

[Anonymous]

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact that the slope on that chart started distinctly upward while Trump was still in office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m tired of republicans lying

Every single vote is public record

Funds for border security they voted NO
Funds for Veterans they vote no
Funds for anything for a wall at the border they voted no

When you scream might want to scream at Republicans

Also they own the House learn civics that is their job not Biden’s.

Jesus freaks please go back to school your cult brains are demented

And Republicans gave no funding to hire judges and staff to deal with the asylum claim backlog even though we know 80% plus don't qualify for asylum and the backlog on hearings is already all the way out to 2031 now.

Republicans are making no changes to the laws that would allow asylum seekers to work while their cases are pending, so we end up having to put them up in hotels and feed them.

Republicans are making no changes to the law such that the many who their businesses hire could actually get visas to come here and work legally

Republicans are still pushing that stale "build a wall" mentality when the wall was being cut through with cheap battery powered angle grinders

Republicans still don't want to deal with the international issues that are pushing migrants out of their home countries in the first place, because they are "shithole countries" per their Orange Stable Genius.

Republicans only flap their jaws and let the problems persist, because they think they can milk it for political gain. Anyone with a brain can see right through it. But people who still stand by Republicans and think they have the answers... are lacking a brain.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are more illegals arriving each month than there are children being born to American mothers.

The craziest part is that I’m not surprised.

When did your family come here again?

Stoking the old "they will replace us" fires for the thousandth time... Sweetie, my great great great great grandma was saying that about the Irish back in the 1840s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The best way to describe how the Dems see illegals is “imported Democrat voters.” If they thought illegals voted for Republicans, the Dems would lock the country down like it was North Korea.

Nah. I don’t think that’s accurate. Most of these people crossing the border will
Not be able to vote, but their anchor babies will. However, these anchor children will not vote Democrat because I believe they will be moderately conservative. And like the illegals immigrants before their parents who want to pull up the ladder of immigration, so will they.

Just like all the people posting here.

"But my parents came here legally!"

Right, as refugees. Or on an investor visa. And, btw, how did they get the funds for that investor visa from their tragically poor home country?

Or, "but they waited their turn!"

So are these people. I married a non-citizen, it's actually quite a process, the road to citizenship.

So wait - you're saying that people waiting their turn to come here legally aren't really entitled to be angry and resentful at people who don't? Why are you in favor of importing poverty and turning the U.S. into a third-world country? Why don't you just move to a third-world country where it seems you'd be happier?
DP

I just have a few chests full of diaries and letters to reference, also I can read books. Your arguments aren't new. My ancestors made them. Many, many times. And yet, here we all are. Why are you so frightened of poor people? Did they chase your parents out of their country of origin?

People are "waiting their turn to come here" when they apply for asylum. Sometimes that happens when they're already here, sometimes not. I'm sorry that I don't really understand outrage that other people might get something you didn't, (I also doubt that's true, or that they'd be getting anything your investor visa family would want.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more illegals arriving each month than there are children being born to American mothers.

The craziest part is that I’m not surprised.

When did your family come here again?

Stoking the old "they will replace us" fires for the thousandth time... Sweetie, my great great great great grandma was saying that about the Irish back in the 1840s.

And her great, great, great grandfather was saying that about the English a century or so earlier--

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who will fill the low wage jobs? Republicans keep maligning education, in the hopes that an uneducated population will produce more poor babies. Importing workers is a better plan.

Actually, I feel like at this point a lot of Republicans have watched "The Handmaid's Tale" like it's an instruction manual. I don't think they'd ever succeed at sealing our borders and electing their own little theocracy, but they're big dreamers, these guys, and they have a wildly inflated sense of self-importance, the kind that makes some of them, like Pompeo, or Thomas, or Trump, think they're fulfilling some kind of great "western" destiny.

Of course it's not western at all, their thought. It's not from one geographical place at all--just fever dreams of some very fragile and very male egos who, even while completely incompetent, can still toss a frag grenade or two onto our Constitution and our rule of law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Illegals voting is a civil rights violation. Citizens should be able to sue a jurisdiction that allows even one non eligible vote to be counted since it cancels out a citizens vote and takes away the citizens right to vote by cancelling it out.

“Illegals” don’t vote. They live in the shadows always afraid of being caught.

But they really don’t. They show up at the hospitals to deliver their fourth and fifth child at taxpayers expense. Then they show up at social services to receive WIC, TANF and Section 8 housing vouchers for their American born children. They come out of the shadows to send their children to public schools and suck up education dollars to subsidize the ESL programs. They drive without insurance and when they are the driver at fault, they scatter which is a cost to the other driver; thus raising auto insurance to others. So no, they do not live in the shadows. They are very much in the open.

They cut and breaded the chicken nuggets you are reheating in the microwave to feed your children. They picked the organic NYState apples you slice for them to take to lunch. They are mostly Spanish-speaking, and this country has had Spanish-speakers as long or longer than it's had English speakers. In fact, many of these "illegals" as you call them, have more of a genetic relation to this country than your family does. I don't believe genetics should ever determine citizenship, but you do. You're just regurgitating all the same tired talking points, but again, you don't mow your own lawn. You eat in restaurants. You benefit from all aspects of the gray economy America has come to depend on. Your manicurist. Your waxer. Your uber driver. Your Irish bartender.

And let me ask again the question you keep refusing to answer: how long have your people been here?

DP. How long have YOUR "people" been here? You do know you're talking to multiple posters, right? Yet you address them as if they're all the same. Why don't you simply state what you really believe - that anyone and everyone should be able to enter the U.S. and that borders mean nothing. That would make your nonsense posts a lot shorter and to the point. And still just as laughable.

Because that's not what I believe. If you could read English, perhaps you'd know that. I don't mean to insinuate it's not your native tongue... I just don't think you do much reading.

My people have been here since they were fur trappers marrying into indigenous tribes, since they were Puritans landing in Salem, since Jamestown, and St Mary's City. I have quite a few ancestors--we all do when you go back that far--and colonial America has remarkably good records--at least for some.

[Anonymous]

I do think a lot of the people trying to come here are being misled, and I believe that a lot of the advocacy groups are complicit in misleading them. I was listening to a story on the radio the other day about a woman who fled Venezuela. She went to Chile with her daughter but then decided to leave Chile because she was a lawyer in Venezuela, but with Chile's paperwork and process, she couldn't work as a lawyer there. So then she was told she should go to the US because she would have an opportunity there.

How could someone in good faith suggest that you could just show up in the US as a migrant from Venezuela, automatically be accepted, and be allowed to go right to practicing law? And particularly when you can't even speak English? That's advice that's just plain wrong.

And why leave a country where you've already been accepted as a refugee, and where they at least speak your language and where you are far more compatible with the culture?

I think we need answers from migrants, "Oh, so you came by land, that means you passed through Colombia, Panama, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico before you got here. Why didn't you stay there? And while you consider your answer, "better economic situation in the US" is not a legitimate reason to seek asylum."

And, we should also find out who in these advocacy groups is coaching these migrants and advising them to come to the US for asylum when 80% plus are just economic migrants and are not eligible for asylum. Anyone giving bogus advice should be prosecuted for fraud, at the very least. Along with being called out for flooding and overwhelming our system which ends up HURTING ACTUAL, ELIGIBLE ASYLUM SEEKERS.