Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I'm thinking when she says she didnt Google Harry she doesnt mean it in the way we think of googling someone. She knew as much as probably any American would know about the Royals. Yes those Americans that care have watched Di/Charles wedding we have heard the stories throughout the years. But to actually be there in the midst is a whole other situation.

Yup. And if she had Googled him extensively, the haters here would've called her an obsessed gold-digging stalker. Well, they already call her a gold diggger.

She IS a gold digger. Do you honestly think she would give H the time of day if he were an average joe she met randomly off the street?

She's pretty bad. I told my DH I bet she would be pregnant right away, and sure enough she sealed her future. One of the most selfish people he could have gotten stuck with. She knew
darn well what her position would entail, and it became her mission to alienate him from his family. Just like her own.

If they had a ounce of intelligence they would stop all media appearances, and stop embarrassing themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:A DIVORCED American actress was the concern and how fast it happened and moved forward.

Omg this is so true.

100%

Their relationship was lightning quick...and since she had a 'past' they were all very concerned.

Based on how things played out, it seems like those with concerns were right to have them.

It sounds like they were concerned about the baby’s race.

Not a good look no matter how you try to spin it.

It sounds like one jerk made some comments, but not that it was endemic. They need racism to be part of the narrative for the sympathy tour to work though. Seems Charles and the Queen went out of their way to be welcoming, but that she was not temperamentally suited to the position. The firm knew a mature divorced actress with a toxic family would likely not fit in well to an archaic hierarchical structure with rigid protocols. Quelle surprise.

Yes. Family background and class standing is huge in Britain, having Royal blood. They were pissed for a long time that Kate was a 'commoner'. She was reviled for it early in the relationship.

And new $$. How much negative press was out there about her mom being a stewardess and the family getting rich off of a party planning company. Even old $ vs new $ is a big deal in this Class based society. It is very different than the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Not a MAGA and could literally not care less about her race. It’s interesting and infuriating that we can’t not like someone without being accused of it having something to do with her race. You know you don’t have to like people just because of their race right? I can not like her personality.

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I was shocked to hear the Royal family referred to as “the Firm” and “the Institution” — anyone else? Is that what royal family members call it?

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She actually said she thought it would be like meeting famous people. And that kind of makes sense honestly as an American. I feel like I would feel the same about meeting QE2 and Brad Pitt. And since she lives in LA and sees famous people a lot, she didn't understand how different it would be. And she said she was really mistaken and surprised by how mistaken.

I actually thought the curtsy thing was weird. She was being introduced as a potential member of the family not as a subject or anything formal.

Exactly! In point of fact, non subjects - which Meghan was at that time of first introduction - don’t have to curtsy. Michelle Obama did not curtsy. Foreigners don’t have to curtsy. Meghan should not have been expected to until at least after the marriage.

Even the Queen thinks royals protocol is BS: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/amp25392223/michelle-obama-queen-protocol-rubbish/

I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the expectations of following protocol are higher for someone dating a member of the British Royal Family (regardless of her citizenship) than for the First Lady of the United States.

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She actually said she thought it would be like meeting famous people. And that kind of makes sense honestly as an American. I feel like I would feel the same about meeting QE2 and Brad Pitt. And since she lives in LA and sees famous people a lot, she didn't understand how different it would be. And she said she was really mistaken and surprised by how mistaken.

I actually thought the curtsy thing was weird. She was being introduced as a potential member of the family not as a subject or anything formal.

Exactly! In point of fact, non subjects - which Meghan was at that time of first introduction - don’t have to curtsy. Michelle Obama did not curtsy. Foreigners don’t have to curtsy. Meghan should not have been expected to until at least after the marriage.

Even the Queen thinks royals protocol is BS: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/amp25392223/michelle-obama-queen-protocol-rubbish/

Americans do not curtsy, period the end. You can confirm this with Emily Post.

Family members do.

Thus, the conflict.

For a while, she was on the path towards getting British citizenship, although she gave that up last year.

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Anonymous wrote:A DIVORCED American actress was the concern and how fast it happened and moved forward.

Omg this is so true.

100%

Their relationship was lightning quick...and since she had a 'past' they were all very concerned.

Based on how things played out, it seems like those with concerns were right to have them.

It sounds like they were concerned about the baby’s race.

Not a good look no matter how you try to spin it.

It sounds like one jerk made some comments, but not that it was endemic. They need racism to be part of the narrative for the sympathy tour to work though. Seems Charles and the Queen went out of their way to be welcoming, but that she was not temperamentally suited to the position. The firm knew a mature divorced actress with a toxic family would likely not fit in well to an archaic hierarchical structure with rigid protocols. Quelle surprise.

I agree. They knew she would have a hard time adjusting to the rigidity. They were wise, but she was young & in love & naive....

Meghan was neither young nor naive. She was in her mid 30s and divorced.

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah didn’t seem keen on Meghan but more so on Harry. Body language. Meghan seemed a bit off? Mission to destroy Kate.

Can you elaborate? I also agreed Oprah didn't feel comfortable with Meghan.

I mean, who's to say that Meghan doesn't turn on Oprah one day after this interview? She put words in her mouth, leading questions etc. I mean if she will turn on the Queen of Englad, she will stop at no one.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so confused. Why are these two whining about the BRF not financially supporting them or providing security when they stepped away as working members? Am I missing something? Why do you have an expectation that it should continue when you don’t work there?

Archie didn't have security before stepping away. As an infant, he is mostly with his parents. But as he aged this would be an issue.

Let’s be transparent, Archie was covered under his father’s umbrella. There was no immediate security concern.

There's a security concern in a few years once he's out of the early childhood years.

What happens when Archie goes off to boarding school? Spends the night at a sleepover birthday party? Or his mom and dad want to celebrate their anniversary and leave Archie with a nanny for the weekend? Etc.

Parents need time to be adults. They've already had one scare in Africa with Archie while the parents were doing their tour duties. The kid needs his own security - he is a target.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not surprised by the level of vitriol in the comments sections of the UK tabloids articles, but it’s a bit shocking to see the hatemongering against Meghan here on an overwhelmingly American forum. What is it, if not reaction to her being an ‘uppity’ woman of color?

I’d love to know how many of you reviling her are MAGA voters.

Voted for Obama and Biden. I don’t like her she reminds me of an NPD friend I once had.

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah didn’t seem keen on Meghan but more so on Harry. Body language. Meghan seemed a bit off? Mission to destroy Kate.

Can you elaborate? I also agreed Oprah didn't feel comfortable with Meghan.

I mean, who's to say that Meghan doesn't turn on Oprah one day after this interview? She put words in her mouth, leading questions etc. I mean if she will turn on the Queen of Englad, she will stop at no one.

She didn’t turn on the Queen though. She continues to say how wonderful she is. She thinks that will keep her in her good graces.

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Anonymous wrote:This is embarrassing. It reads like she put Harry in a bad position with: asking him to go to them about her mental health, wanting the prince title for Archie so that he “got security”, crying victim over perceived slights against her from his family, having him do this interview. Harry’s a good man so of course he went along with her.

Oprah is struggling with trying to understand what they are saying for half an hour at least because the story doesn’t add up. She even says so you wanted to have it both ways? And I mean the answer is basically yes. Meghan felt that the money/security should keep coming after their departure.

Oprah was fine. I'm sorry you had trouble following the story. When you listen carefully to the details of what she said, it does add up.

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And at that first meeting, she was Harry’s American girlfriend - not family, not a subject.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A DIVORCED American actress was the concern and how fast it happened and moved forward.

Omg this is so true.

100%

Their relationship was lightning quick...and since she had a 'past' they were all very concerned.

Based on how things played out, it seems like those with concerns were right to have them.

It sounds like they were concerned about the baby’s race.

Not a good look no matter how you try to spin it.

It sounds like one jerk made some comments, but not that it was endemic. They need racism to be part of the narrative for the sympathy tour to work though. Seems Charles and the Queen went out of their way to be welcoming, but that she was not temperamentally suited to the position. The firm knew a mature divorced actress with a toxic family would likely not fit in well to an archaic hierarchical structure with rigid protocols. Quelle surprise.

Yes. Family background and class standing is huge in Britain, having Royal blood. They were pissed for a long time that Kate was a 'commoner'. She was reviled for it early in the relationship.

And new $$. How much negative press was out there about her mom being a stewardess and the family getting rich off of a party planning company. Even old $ vs new $ is a big deal in this Class based society. It is very different than the US.

Yes, Kate was absolutely trashed for her family's non-aristo new money status. This lasted for a very long time, at least ten years. Meghan was not at all prepared for the similar drubbing based on class differences, plus adding in being a divorced American and bi-racial. Anyone could foresee the disaster and few people are thick-skinned enough to take it. It hardened Kate and would have hardened Meghan if she'd stayed. Do I think she's an egotistical narcissist? Probably. But I think this would have been incredibly hard for anyone, no matter how wonderful they were or weren't.

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It seems to me that that he understands that being BRF is dangerous.

He and Meg did not feel they or their children were well protected in their position with the BRF so they did something about it. I think most would do the same.