What does everyone think about SYC

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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.



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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.





When you say many players from other clubs filling in, you mean on mls next teams? They don’t actually use only SYC players on MLS next teams? Guest players? Why?
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.





When you say many players from other clubs filling in, you mean on mls next teams? They don’t actually use only SYC players on MLS next teams? Guest players? Why?


I'm not sure about all the logistics but MLS allows players from different clubs to play in one team. They are not guest players, they are part-time players meaning they play with their own club and commit to play with our MLS team. I know half of the players have to be from the SYC but not all.

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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.





When you say many players from other clubs filling in, you mean on mls next teams? They don’t actually use only SYC players on MLS next teams? Guest players? Why?


I'm not sure about all the logistics but MLS allows players from different clubs to play in one team. They are not guest players, they are part-time players meaning they play with their own club and commit to play with our MLS team. I know half of the players have to be from the SYC but not all.



I find this pretty stunning. I can see using 1-2 guest players if the need arises, but don’t understand why the club would do that on a regular basis or why the SYC players and parents would be ok with that. Was frequent and substantial guest-playing explained to SYC mls next parents when they initially signed up?
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Time for some of these MYS kids to start to take a look at tennis or golf. Mommy and Daddy are running out of roster spots to buy.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.





When you say many players from other clubs filling in, you mean on mls next teams? They don’t actually use only SYC players on MLS next teams? Guest players? Why?


I'm not sure about all the logistics but MLS allows players from different clubs to play in one team. They are not guest players, they are part-time players meaning they play with their own club and commit to play with our MLS team. I know half of the players have to be from the SYC but not all.



I find this pretty stunning. I can see using 1-2 guest players if the need arises, but don’t understand why the club would do that on a regular basis or why the SYC players and parents would be ok with that. Was frequent and substantial guest-playing explained to SYC mls next parents when they initially signed up?


“Part time” players only in association with the club. When it comes to mls next team they are full time players as they participate in every training and games. Roster of team including those “part time” players is about 16-18 so every kid has to work for playing time.
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Anonymous wrote:Time for some of these MYS kids to start to take a look at tennis or golf. Mommy and Daddy are running out of roster spots to buy.


That’s nonsense. The only things getting bought are false results and gotsoccer points using guest players developed by other clubs. We know SYC isn’t the only club doing this, but I am surprised they are doing it in mls next. It’s not about presuming that money entitled you to a roster spot. It is about knowing information that can lead you to make an informed decision about where your kid should play. Equally true for families not paying a dime.
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Anonymous wrote:Just heard Syc and McLean are joining alliance/merger?


Alliance, not a merger. Club sends its best players to form ECNL team for ages U13-U19 for boys and girls.


Best SYC boys are not going to play ecnl. They would play mls next.


MLS Next is only for 2009, 2008 and 2007 boys. The rest of the club will be in Alliance.

SYC will be recruiting for MLSnext so not sure how many of the SYC kids will be on MLSnext for those ages...


Based on this partnership it sounds like mls next will likely only be u13 and u14 so no 07s. U15s will have to go to dc United.


Any other club I would agree. You wouldn't go into this partnership if you were still trying to expand your MLSNEXT. However, SYC isn't the most stable club (a different league each year for the last several years), so maybe they are only going into this partnership for a year or two and then going to go onto something else. I can't imagine MLSNEXT granting anymore age groups after this partnership, however, so you are probably right.


It seems you’re missing the point - you recognize that the point of MLSNext is to grow into the youngest ages and not jump straight into the older years and hurt existing clubs or create crappier older teams right? Start at younger ages and expand as those teams age into older age groups and younger ages take their place until all ages are full.


I get that is what they were hoping for before, but if they were still hoping for that, why would they join this alliance to send their best players to a combined SYC/Mclean team to play in ECNL? Doesn't make any sense. Before with the DA, there were teams that only had younger age groups. The idea is you cast a wider net at younger ages and then have less teams at the older age group. The best from those clubs that only have the younger teams would then go play for the teams that do have the older age groups and those weaker players from those teams would be weeded out. I think SYC realized thy weren't getting older age groups and signed up for this so their top players would stay. This kind of defeats the point of MLS casting a wider net, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get kicked out of MLSNEXT all together.


I agree. It doesn't make any sense. 2009, 2008 and maybe 2007 best players will be in MLSNEXT but they will have many players from other clubs filling in.

For the older boys, many top players don't care to do ECNL, the ones that did already left. The only strong teams right now are the 2004 and 2003.

Still too many changes. Before LMVSC coaches and players took over, the club had Blue, Orange, White and Black teams but so many left. They don't have that many teams as it is to participate in so many leagues. MLSnext, CCL, EDP, ECNL, NCSL.... They only have 2 teams per age-- and the gap between both groups is huge at every age.





When you say many players from other clubs filling in, you mean on mls next teams? They don’t actually use only SYC players on MLS next teams? Guest players? Why?


I'm not sure about all the logistics but MLS allows players from different clubs to play in one team. They are not guest players, they are part-time players meaning they play with their own club and commit to play with our MLS team. I know half of the players have to be from the SYC but not all.



I find this pretty stunning. I can see using 1-2 guest players if the need arises, but don’t understand why the club would do that on a regular basis or why the SYC players and parents would be ok with that. Was frequent and substantial guest-playing explained to SYC mls next parents when they initially signed up?


“Part time” players only in association with the club. When it comes to mls next team they are full time players as they participate in every training and games. Roster of team including those “part time” players is about 16-18 so every kid has to work for playing time.


Thanks. I would view them as full time players. Why are they called part-time? Because they are also playing for other clubs? That’s very different than the usual guest players.
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Anonymous wrote:Time for some of these MYS kids to start to take a look at tennis or golf. Mommy and Daddy are running out of roster spots to buy.


That’s nonsense. The only things getting bought are false results and gotsoccer points using guest players developed by other clubs. We know SYC isn’t the only club doing this, but I am surprised they are doing it in mls next. It’s not about presuming that money entitled you to a roster spot. It is about knowing information that can lead you to make an informed decision about where your kid should play. Equally true for families not paying a dime.


Ok maybe its a little more fair to say hope that some MYS families are going to be ok when they precious kids are demoted down a level and no longer on the top teams to make room for some more talent
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Every time my kids play an SYC team the roster is completely different. Different kids playing on the team each time, no matter if it is Orange, White, Black or Blue. Ex. Some SYC teams in tournaments looks like two different groups put together to make a new team (white! Black!) just for the tournament.
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Anonymous wrote:Every time my kids play an SYC team the roster is completely different. Different kids playing on the team each time, no matter if it is Orange, White, Black or Blue. Ex. Some SYC teams in tournaments looks like two different groups put together to make a new team (white! Black!) just for the tournament.


Interesting. Not been my experience here on the younger girls side. Maybe a player or two changing in or out based on availability as we don’t carry big rosters at younger ages, but not wholesale changes.
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