Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Yeah I just read her About section. Horrible. Unfunny. Humble bragging. Not endearing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Older personality disordered mothers (and fathers) got away with a lot of sh#t, that's for sure

She's not that old. Maybe 45? I mean to have three adult kids, and two in high school

She's 46. She and Brandon got married young, right out of college -- 1996ish?

[Anonymous]

cvbg

[Anonymous]

Is anyone still friends with her kids on insta? Caleb has posted in his stories about pedophilia and why not to protect abusers....
makes you wonder...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone still friends with her kids on insta? Caleb has posted in his stories about pedophilia and why not to protect abusers....
makes you wonder...

Jesus. I hope not. I thought maybe he was with someone who was too young for him (like a 20 year old) but not at that level. That would be truly horrific.

[Anonymous]

This is a note to Rachel Hollis. . .who allegedly had the affair with Brandon Hatmaker. . .https://www.lighternoteshow.com/post/a-note-to-the-side-chicks-of-the-world

[Anonymous]

And this was for sure a nod to Rachel. . .https://www.lighternoteshow.com/post/girl-watch-your-husband

[Anonymous]

I know there was some speculation that Brandon & Rachel had an affair but I don't believe it. There's just too much at stake for both of them.

[Anonymous]

Rachel and Jen are still friends

[Anonymous]

I know Jen and RH are still social media friends...but tell me this doesn’t sound like a dig. (Jen’s recent Facebook post is an excerpt from her book and congratulating herself for not being full of shit, I guess.)

“You never catch her absolving small behavior but calling people to live big, love big, dream big, forgive big.”

Isn’t that RH’s whole grift — bullying women into disordered thinking by accusing them of being small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone still friends with her kids on insta? Caleb has posted in his stories about pedophilia and why not to protect abusers....
makes you wonder...

Jesus. I hope not. I thought maybe he was with someone who was too young for him (like a 20 year old) but not at that level. That would be truly horrific.

That would be horrific. And surely they would go to the police, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this kind of "confessing" is a pretty well known defense mechanism and think it can be very reinforcing. I admit my embarrassing behavior and put it out there publicly for you, I mock myself. In doing so I look self aware, i am in on the joke and shaping the story, and I can indulge my wish that by doing so, by mocking myself, you will judge me less harshly. I am also funny and charming, so you may find me endearing, we can maybe bond around it, etc. And I can feel less crappy about what I did and maybe even not think about it because your support gave me a little dopamine hit and I feel better. I am ok...Underneath it, there was often guilt and shame, but it got projected and i got my goodies from someone else to feel better. It's a very common, human thing to do.

I don't think it contributes to thinking more deeply or learning though, that's the problem. It has a, "oh well....this is how we are" quality that does not really allow for a whole lot of change, because you are not really thinking about why you might do that, if you want to change it, etc. It seems emotionally lazy. That's my issue with that kind of post.

I think you’re right — but what happens in her “confessions” is that her fan girls fall all over themselves to normalize, accept and defend toxic or harmful behavior.

She gained a lot of viral fame for writing her missives about the end of school year and basically refusing to hold herself or children accountable for assignments, permission slips, etc. While her writing style can be humorous, I saw teachers comment that end of year is hard for everyone and losing parent support sucks for them — and her followers bullied those women into silence.

Same when she made the bizarre post about her son’s graduation. He got up in the middle of the ceremony and walked out and she thought it was funny and “so him” and when people said it felt disrespectful it was quickly shut up.

This is just middle age Mean Girls with #blessed yeti cups.

Oh my stars . . . there is more than one way to celebrate something! Bless y'all's hearts!

Hell, none of us wanted to be at DD's HS graduation years ago. We lost both her dad and my dad in the same month, right before DD turned 18 and graduated.

DD **BEGGED** us to not make a big deal about graduation - she hated HS and just wanted to be done. She would have loved it if we just let them mail her diploma.

In hindsight, I wish I had encouraged her to just keep walking after receiving her diploma (or after her only friend received hers, to soothe all the "support the other students" sayers).

As it was, I was fending off queries about a graduation party for months prior, and months after.

SHE.
DID.
NOT.
WANT.
ONE.

From the vantage point of parenting a 21 year old, none of this will appear on anyone's permanent record - there really is not a permanent folder somewhere.

And I would rather be or know someone who loses their $h!t over a board game, than one who chooses to be catty and speculative about someone across the country they have never met, but are going to roll around in that person's personal misery for entertainment anyway.

[Anonymous]

Jen Hatmaker does the same thing so many of these IGers do...look at me I am sooooo popular, look what my friends do. Kelle Hampton was the worst with this and staging everyone in the hospital room for N's birth. Most people have good friends who do nice things and we thank them directly. We don't film and refilm ourselves to get the perfect "surprised" shot because friends built us a bed swing that looks like it could swing back and break a window. It's like when people gusyh about spouses on IG. Just turn to your spouse and gush right to him. The fact she needs an audience for everything is concerning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jen Hatmaker does the same thing so many of these IGers do...look at me I am sooooo popular, look what my friends do. Kelle Hampton was the worst with this and staging everyone in the hospital room for N's birth. Most people have good friends who do nice things and we thank them directly. We don't film and refilm ourselves to get the perfect "surprised" shot because friends built us a bed swing that looks like it could swing back and break a window. It's like when people gusyh about spouses on IG. Just turn to your spouse and gush right to him. The fact she needs an audience for everything is concerning.

Yep. Exactly. Well put. Her authenticity, to me at least, is lacking. Everyone processes grief and/or trauma differently, but it is unbecoming to me when it’s on full display in order to continue to monetize on your quaint and “humble-braggy” persona. Hyperbole is not just a word, it’s her style and it grows tiresome. Perhaps she’s a touch bi-polar— the highs are way too high, and the lows are way too low. Hopefully, they can all find their way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this kind of "confessing" is a pretty well known defense mechanism and think it can be very reinforcing. I admit my embarrassing behavior and put it out there publicly for you, I mock myself. In doing so I look self aware, i am in on the joke and shaping the story, and I can indulge my wish that by doing so, by mocking myself, you will judge me less harshly. I am also funny and charming, so you may find me endearing, we can maybe bond around it, etc. And I can feel less crappy about what I did and maybe even not think about it because your support gave me a little dopamine hit and I feel better. I am ok...Underneath it, there was often guilt and shame, but it got projected and i got my goodies from someone else to feel better. It's a very common, human thing to do.

I don't think it contributes to thinking more deeply or learning though, that's the problem. It has a, "oh well....this is how we are" quality that does not really allow for a whole lot of change, because you are not really thinking about why you might do that, if you want to change it, etc. It seems emotionally lazy. That's my issue with that kind of post.

I think you’re right — but what happens in her “confessions” is that her fan girls fall all over themselves to normalize, accept and defend toxic or harmful behavior.

She gained a lot of viral fame for writing her missives about the end of school year and basically refusing to hold herself or children accountable for assignments, permission slips, etc. While her writing style can be humorous, I saw teachers comment that end of year is hard for everyone and losing parent support sucks for them — and her followers bullied those women into silence.

Same when she made the bizarre post about her son’s graduation. He got up in the middle of the ceremony and walked out and she thought it was funny and “so him” and when people said it felt disrespectful it was quickly shut up.

This is just middle age Mean Girls with #blessed yeti cups.

Oh my stars . . . there is more than one way to celebrate something! Bless y'all's hearts!

Hell, none of us wanted to be at DD's HS graduation years ago. We lost both her dad and my dad in the same month, right before DD turned 18 and graduated.

DD **BEGGED** us to not make a big deal about graduation - she hated HS and just wanted to be done. She would have loved it if we just let them mail her diploma.

In hindsight, I wish I had encouraged her to just keep walking after receiving her diploma (or after her only friend received hers, to soothe all the "support the other students" sayers).

As it was, I was fending off queries about a graduation party for months prior, and months after.

SHE.
DID.
NOT.
WANT.
ONE.

From the vantage point of parenting a 21 year old, none of this will appear on anyone's permanent record - there really is not a permanent folder somewhere.

And I would rather be or know someone who loses their $h!t over a board game, than one who chooses to be catty and speculative about someone across the country they have never met, but are going to roll around in that person's personal misery for entertainment anyway.

So you'd rather be known as someone who does not have the coping skills to deal with losing a board games -in front of your own children no less than be someone who criticizes someone who normalizes and makes cute disrespectful and white-privileged behavior? Got it!