Why is DJT so obsessed with pushing hydroxychloroquine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Laughing at you Democrat’s who think physicians are rubes who will change their method of evaluating evidence, science, risk/benefit, and prescribing because Trump says so. LOL.

Why do you even go to the doctor if you think so little of their ability? You Democrat’s best stick with reiki energy healing, the anti-vax movement, naturopaths, and homeopathic remedies.

We are laughing at you MAGA idiots. Just days ago you were bleating about how everyone should be given hydroxychloroquine just because your Dear Leader said so, when everyone said that further studies were needed.Thankfully not everyone is as stupid as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laughing at you Democrat’s who think physicians are rubes who will change their method of evaluating evidence, science, risk/benefit, and prescribing because Trump says so. LOL.

Why do you even go to the doctor if you think so little of their ability? You Democrat’s best stick with reiki energy healing, the anti-vax movement, naturopaths, and homeopathic remedies.

We are laughing at you MAGA idiots. Just days ago you were bleating about how everyone should be given hydroxychloroquine just because your Dear Leader said so, when everyone said that further studies were needed.Thankfully not everyone is as stupid as you.

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Please reread this thread for a good laugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.

"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.

QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.

The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."

The data for QTc prolongation is originally based on data from Clarithromycin, a drug in the same class. Azithromycin has not demonstrated the same properties, the case reports in the literature are under a handful. Caution is recommended in certain classes of patients, patients with electrolyte disturbances, underlying cardiac disease, existing QT prolongation disorders, patients taking multiple drugs which prolong QT interval, and frail elderly. Z-packs are given out by the millions to patients every day, as outpatients. Many of those same patients are already on Hydroxychloroquine for RA and lupus. Current guidelines recommend screening and monitoring to manage possible side effects and evaluate risk/benefit. Trump is not your doctor, and your doctor is very capable of making these assessments.

Wow, you're smarter than a panel of NIH convened experts? Amazing! We are blessed to have you here on DCUM.

This issue should be looked at critically from both sides rather than politicized in either direction. These drugs are not new, neither is the warning of the QTc interaction.

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, Trump, a politician not a doctor, should have never uttered the word hydroxychloroquine out of his puckered up little face sphincter.

He is incompetent and should be removed before more people DIE.

Trump cannot write a single prescription. For anything. Do you really think the medical establishment is that stupid?

There are protocols and policies for everything which happens in a hospital, checks and double checks. Trump’s magic wand doesn’t make a sh*tload of difference of what is actually taking place in the hospitals and how it is being planned. Not only were physicians seeing hemoglobin attacked, severe inflammatory reactions, they were all so seeing clotting disorders similar to patients with lupus. Hydroxychloroquine, which is used for autoimmune response in lupus, was reasonable to investigate. Remdesivir and Actemra, are among other drugs being studied and used under compassionate use agreements,however, Trump didn’t “say so.” In your view, how can other drugs be used if Trump didn't tell our doctors what to do? You are a moron.

How many MDs wrote themselves a script?

And Trump’s proclamations are causing trouble for this guy:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/22/842013672/federal-doctor-says-he-was-removed-for-resisting-unproven-coronavirus-treatments

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.

"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.

QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.

The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."

The data for QTc prolongation is originally based on data from Clarithromycin, a drug in the same class. Azithromycin has not demonstrated the same properties, the case reports in the literature are under a handful. Caution is recommended in certain classes of patients, patients with electrolyte disturbances, underlying cardiac disease, existing QT prolongation disorders, patients taking multiple drugs which prolong QT interval, and frail elderly. Z-packs are given out by the millions to patients every day, as outpatients. Many of those same patients are already on Hydroxychloroquine for RA and lupus. Current guidelines recommend screening and monitoring to manage possible side effects and evaluate risk/benefit. Trump is not your doctor, and your doctor is very capable of making these assessments.

Wow, you're smarter than a panel of NIH convened experts? Amazing! We are blessed to have you here on DCUM.

This issue should be looked at critically from both sides rather than politicized in either direction. These drugs are not new, neither is the warning of the QTc interaction.

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, Trump, a politician not a doctor, should have never uttered the word hydroxychloroquine out of his puckered up little face sphincter.

He is incompetent and should be removed before more people DIE.

Trump cannot write a single prescription. For anything. Do you really think the medical establishment is that stupid?

There are protocols and policies for everything which happens in a hospital, checks and double checks. Trump’s magic wand doesn’t make a sh*tload of difference of what is actually taking place in the hospitals and how it is being planned. Not only were physicians seeing hemoglobin attacked, severe inflammatory reactions, they were all so seeing clotting disorders similar to patients with lupus. Hydroxychloroquine, which is used for autoimmune response in lupus, was reasonable to investigate. Remdesivir and Actemra, are among other drugs being studied and used under compassionate use agreements,however, Trump didn’t “say so.” In your view, how can other drugs be used if Trump didn't tell our doctors what to do? You are a moron.

You: It's ok for the President of the United States to spout complete and utter bullshit on national television because no one will listen to him anyway.

This is not. You are not ok.

[Anonymous]

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And Trump’s proclamations are causing trouble for this guy:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/22/842013672/federal-doctor-says-he-was-removed-for-resisting-unproven-coronavirus-treatments

Dr. Li Wenliang was was threatened by the Chinese police for telling the truth about the corona virus.
Dr. Richard Bright was removed from his position by the Trump administration for telling the truth about hdroxycholoroquine

[Anonymous]

The montage being played by Maddow right now is epic. What a bunch of morons.

[Anonymous]

Dr. Richard Bright was removed from his position by the Trump administration for telling the truth about hdroxycholoroquine

Might want to read this article:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/22/hhs-ousts-vaccine-expert-as-covid-19-threat-grows-201642

"Bright told The New York Times on Wednesday that he believed his removal was because of his internal opposition to pursuing investments in malaria drugs as potential treatments for Covid-19, which President Donald Trump has touted without scientific evidence. Three people with knowledge of HHS' recent acquisition of tens of millions of doses of those drugs said Bright had supported those acquisitions in internal communications, with one official saying that Bright praised the move as a win for the health department as part of an email exchange that was first reported by Reuters last week, although Bright's message was not publicly reported."

[Anonymous]

What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Why did Trump glom on to hydroxychloroquine? Is he a medical doctor? He should stay in his lane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Substitute the words "magic beans" for hydroxychloroquine.

Who are the caring people? Those who want magic beans to fail, or those who want magic beans to succeed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Why did Trump glom on to hydroxychloroquine? Is he a medical doctor? He should stay in his lane.

Because it was the only thing that had shown signs of any success when this started. Now, there are a couple of other things, but none as widely available.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

A panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases recommends against doctors using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of COVID-19 patients because of potential toxicities.

"The combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was associated with QTc prolongation in patients with COVID-19," the panel said.

QTc prolongation increases the risk of sudden cardiac death.

The recommendation against their combined use would seem to fly in the face of comments made by President Trump suggesting the combination might be helpful. On March 21, for example, the president described them in a tweet as having a "real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine."

The data for QTc prolongation is originally based on data from Clarithromycin, a drug in the same class. Azithromycin has not demonstrated the same properties, the case reports in the literature are under a handful. Caution is recommended in certain classes of patients, patients with electrolyte disturbances, underlying cardiac disease, existing QT prolongation disorders, patients taking multiple drugs which prolong QT interval, and frail elderly. Z-packs are given out by the millions to patients every day, as outpatients. Many of those same patients are already on Hydroxychloroquine for RA and lupus. Current guidelines recommend screening and monitoring to manage possible side effects and evaluate risk/benefit. Trump is not your doctor, and your doctor is very capable of making these assessments.

Wow, you're smarter than a panel of NIH convened experts? Amazing! We are blessed to have you here on DCUM.

This issue should be looked at critically from both sides rather than politicized in either direction. These drugs are not new, neither is the warning of the QTc interaction.

Is that all you’ve got?

Yes, Trump, a politician not a doctor, should have never uttered the word hydroxychloroquine out of his puckered up little face sphincter.

He is incompetent and should be removed before more people DIE.

Trump cannot write a single prescription. For anything. Do you really think the medical establishment is that stupid?

There are protocols and policies for everything which happens in a hospital, checks and double checks. Trump’s magic wand doesn’t make a sh*tload of difference of what is actually taking place in the hospitals and how it is being planned. Not only were physicians seeing hemoglobin attacked, severe inflammatory reactions, they were all so seeing clotting disorders similar to patients with lupus. Hydroxychloroquine, which is used for autoimmune response in lupus, was reasonable to investigate. Remdesivir and Actemra, are among other drugs being studied and used under compassionate use agreements,however, Trump didn’t “say so.” In your view, how can other drugs be used if Trump didn't tell our doctors what to do? You are a moron.

He wasted taxpayer money on his own made up medical advice
https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/more-than-29-mn-hcq-doses-bought-by-us-have-come-from-india-trump-120040800426_1.html

"I bought millions of doses (of hydroxychloroquine). More than 29 million. I spoke to Prime Minister Modi, a lot of it (hydroxychloroquine) comes out of India. I asked him if he would release it? He was Great. He was really good," Trump told Sean Hannity of the Fox News on Monday night.

Other dummies followed his lead:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2020/04/07/bureau-of-prisons-recently-purchased-hydroxychloroquine-controversial-covid-19-treatment/#5b5cef8c2839

The Daily Beast reported that both the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) and the BOP have both reported purchases of hydroxychloroquine since March 26, according to federal procurement records. According to the report the VA purchased $200,000 in hydroxychloroquine tablets from the pharmaceutical companies. The records cited they were for “emergency” purchase orders to deal with the COVID-19 outbreak. The BOP’s purchase did not mention COVID-19 but their purchase was for $60,000 of the product.

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/supply-chain/chloroquine-short-supply-hospitals-buy-bulk

Orders of chloroquine spiked 3,000% in March, according to data from Premier, the group purchasing and consulting organization. From January 2019 through February 2020, hospitals ordered an average of 149 units a month. More than 2,300 units were ordered through March thus far.

Its variant hydroxychloroquine experienced a 260% surge in demand, Premier data show. Hospitals typically used about 8,800 units a month, jumping to 16,110 units ordered in March.

Chloroquine phosphate tables and hydroxychloroquine sulfate tablets went into shortage on March 9 and March 19, respectively, according to the American Society of Health System Pharmacists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

It was never promising in any scientific sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Why did Trump glom on to hydroxychloroquine? Is he a medical doctor? He should stay in his lane.

Because it was the only thing that had shown signs of any success when this started. Now, there are a couple of other things, but none as widely available.

There was no "success" from any valid scientific study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is really sad to me is that media hates DJT so much that they are gleeful to think that a promising treatment does not work---just becaues Trump wants it to work.

Who are the caring people? Those who want it to fail, or those who want it to succeed?

Every part of this post is insane.