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Anonymous
Its funny to me the idea that leagues "win". Our players need to win by developing to college level. Ultimately our UWSNT needs to win. It is naive to think that there is one league formula that has enough coverage in this country to grow all of our players to their potential. I like the fact that there are two league formulas. Even at that, there are vast segments of the country that neither ECNL or DA reaches. Nobody wins if one league formula squashes out all other options. Horses for courses, vive la difference. Find the best development environment for your player, and accept the fact that there will always be a better team, somewhere, somehow.... maybe even from another league. |
Anonymous
The best girls will not be at Arlington. It’s just a changing of team names. Red team becomes pre-DA. |
Anonymous
+100 DA, ENCL, CCL doesn’t f@cking matter... |
Anonymous
Well, you don’t have to give a f@ck but the thread is labeled and is clearly about DA and ECNL sooo that’s the topic. Perhaps read a different thread? |
Anonymous
| Once Arlington gets DA, the ECNL lovers come out of the woodwork instead of embracing that they have a better, closer #1 option instead of VDA. Listen, DA has already won the important market out west. Now, they will win here. Don't you get it? Get out of your bubble in Mclean and look big picture. Or just stay in McLean and enjoy your ECNL. But please don't say stupid stuff. |
Anonymous
This is 100% correct. Very well said. Many DA parents on this board have spent their time bashing ECNL, CCL etc. Now that ASA has the DA, we turn on them as not being worthy etc. Enough. This is what is wrong with soccer today in NOVA. Everyone needs to rise above this. ECNL has some darn good teams. Yes, we did pull over ECNL teams to start the DA. DA should become a strong force in girls soccer. But, after 1 year we are not superior - and no we don't dominate the landscape. We may never totally dominate it. What do we really need? Take the best players and feed them in the US Training Center and extend it beyond U15. If they are DA, ECNL, CCL, ODSL, WAGS - it does not matter. Purposely have DA and ECNL teams play each other on a regular basis - how do we say DA is dominant when we don't play the other "top" league or leagues? It would be good for everyone - including colleges and the USWNT. So, kudos to ASA for getting DA. Kudos to Loudoun, BYRC, Spirit, FCV, etc. for their successes. If ANYONE on this board has TRULY had a kid who has played at relatively competitive level at Jefferson Cup (or CASL etc), State or Regional ODP, State Cups, USTC, PDP, ECNL or now the newly minted DA - you know that there are darn good kids on many teams - even the teams we think we are so superior to. Show lets all some respect and knock it off. |
Anonymous
So, 2-3 years from now, where do you think they all will be? Enjoy high school soccer and the Div IIi scouts at your ECNL showcase match against Loudoun. WS, ASA, and FCV, those are great options and strong clubs. Too bad you didn't produce a son and understand how DA works. |
Anonymous
was ASA a strong club then prior to getting the badge of DA and all of the bashing of ASA on this board? If VDA kept DA, would they be considered a strong club in your mind? How is this any different than FCV playing ASA - a previous CCL and ECNL team? Your logic is pathetic. |
Anonymous
Oh, and before you reply to the above, I am saying this as an ASA parent. And I know how DA works. |
Anonymous
They will definitely bring in new kids. That’s what happened in boys. The Arlington 06 and 04 boys are probably less than 25% Arlington players. |
Anonymous
Any VA boy who wants elite soccer goes to ASA, Loudoun, or DCU. Best of luck figuring out youth soccer for your little girl. |
Anonymous
Jackpot. And here's a parent much smarter then the ASA parent who hopefully will take his little girl to McLean to play for Hope Solo once they hire her for ECNL coach. |
Anonymous
Reaponding to multiple PPs. Correct, leagues don’t develop players by default. Correct, clubs do, but rarely one club over one player’s career. If ECNL and DA can both remain elite enough to attract college scouts more than any other teams, both leagues win. But college soccer is mot good soccer by global standards, period. They don’t even play by the real rules. Very few college coaches are able to balance good soccer with college success, because it’s flat out unfair how an average but athletic college team can athletically overpower and outlast “better” teams. That's all fine. If college soccer experience and scholarships are the end game. But the women’s professional game is booming globally now. Every year 100 college grads can probably find a place to play somewhere in the world. It may not pay much, but it pays housing, travel, and basic living money. More than a lot of entry level jobs from college, and WAY more life experiences. With all this talk of “Development”, you have to define what that means to your DD. If it means “get her a college scholarship”, either league will do just fine for many years to come. But that path can literally ruin a young, talented player’s opportunity to develop into a professiknal quality player. The theory is DA will do that better, but it does still come down to the club. DA rules are harsh, coaching requirements are high, and they mandate all sorts of things ECNL only recommends. The DA will “win”. If your DD is 16 today, that doesn’t mean much. But I trust the league backed by the people who pick national team players and that the pro clubs are supporting for anyone younger if they have even a flicker of a dream to play beyond college. |
Anonymous
What happened with the 05? |
Anonymous
You trust the people that pick National teams? They are 99.9% of the problem with soccer in this country. Did you back Gulati- Cordero? |