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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to watch what you say if you’re on the right. Kilmeade said something on live TV that would have resulted in immediate termination and irredeemable professional cancellation if he was on the left, but nothing will happen to him. And that’s because one side has zero morality and conscience, while the other side allows POS idiots like Kirsten Gillibrand to foment a witch hunt when a colleague makes a crass gesture.



This. Democrats hold each other to impossible standards and Republicans have no standards.
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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need to watch what you say if you’re on the right. Kilmeade said something on live TV that would have resulted in immediate termination and irredeemable professional cancellation if he was on the left, but nothing will happen to him. And that’s because one side has zero morality and conscience, while the other side allows POS idiots like Kirsten Gillibrand to foment a witch hunt when a colleague makes a crass gesture.


Can you imagine the MAGA snowflakes and their faux outrage if that Kilmeade situation was reversed?



The same mAGA who had their trucks wrapped in the life-size image of Biden hog tied and gagged.
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Anonymous wrote:So not debate MAGA. They know they are lying and they laugh every time you waste your energy replying to them.


Yeah, but they are kind of fun sometimes.


It never ceases to entertain me to see how dimwitted, clueless and misinformed MAGA is.
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Anonymous wrote:He was killed on camera. No one's family deserves to have to witness that. It's unthinkably cruel that people would then go on the internet and use their platform to say about an innocent man that "I don't care that he's dead." "He's not a hero." "He's a scumbag." "He shouldn't be celebrated."

I'm talking about George Floyd. You thought I was talking about Charlie Kirk? No, those are actual quotes BY Charlie Kirk about George Floyd. Outrageous that anyone would say that of the dead, right?


Wow.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem
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Anonymous wrote:He was killed on camera. No one's family deserves to have to witness that. It's unthinkably cruel that people would then go on the internet and use their platform to say about an innocent man that "I don't care that he's dead." "He's not a hero." "He's a scumbag." "He shouldn't be celebrated."

I'm talking about George Floyd. You thought I was talking about Charlie Kirk? No, those are actual quotes BY Charlie Kirk about George Floyd. Outrageous that anyone would say that of the dead, right?


Wow.


Offered without comment. The author has some thoughts.

https://onoffense.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-doxxing-threats
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem


Not if that employer is Intel.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem


I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.
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Anonymous wrote:These people deserve to lose their jobs. Totally unacceptable.






I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.

Hypocrites.


1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?

And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.

One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.


Don the Con Trump. Your Overlord and Master.



This man should be fired for such offensive celebration of political violence!
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Anonymous wrote:These people deserve to lose their jobs. Totally unacceptable.






I just appreciate the irony that the whole "F" your feelings crowd who gleefully celebrated Biden's failing health, Paul Pelosi getting beaten with a hammer, ignored their breathern who stampeded Congress with a noose and gallows, pretended like one of their own didn't cosplay as a cop and murder a couple of local politicians, and whose mindset something like 70-65% of mass shooters follows (whose very acts they claim are fabricated by the "deep state") are getting all bent out of shape because some Goebbels wanna be got shot by own of their own.

Hypocrites.


1. Republicans didn't celebrate Biden's failing health. We called it out in an effort to convince the Democrats and the media to see what was right in front of your faces.
2. Tell us about the Republicans who celebrated the Paul Pelosi attack. Name them.
3. The whole J6 riot was roundly condemned by Republicans.
4. The murderer of the MN politicians once worked for Tim Walz and claimed that Tim Walz told him to kill the lawmakers. How is this someone from the right?

And, your referring to Kirk as a "Goebbels wanna be" is outright disgusting, offensive, and nothing can be further from the truth.

One last thing.... you appear to have major anger issues. Get help.


Don the Con Trump. Your Overlord and Master.



This man should be fired for such offensive celebration of political violence!


He is disgusting and the most unpresidential POTUS in history.

But his speech is protected by the first amendment. See how that works, MAGA.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

Was the context for this post the timeframe where Trump hadn’t been seen for days and wasn’t even posting on social media, then came the prerecorded statement that some people think was AI? That happened before Kirk’s shooting, so Kirk’s murder is just a pretense. I don’t think people should be posting anything that suggests they’d like the president to die, but if you’re going to fire people who have shared similar feelings about Trump (people who claimed his vanishing from the public eye for a few days got their hopes up or who post about when “it” happens) and Biden, then you’re going to have to fire a LOT of people.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

Was the context for this post the timeframe where Trump hadn’t been seen for days and wasn’t even posting on social media, then came the prerecorded statement that some people think was AI? That happened before Kirk’s shooting, so Kirk’s murder is just a pretense. I don’t think people should be posting anything that suggests they’d like the president to die, but if you’re going to fire people who have shared similar feelings about Trump (people who claimed his vanishing from the public eye for a few days got their hopes up or who post about when “it” happens) and Biden, then you’re going to have to fire a LOT of people.

Yup. As much as I look forward to the inevitable demise of our current President - and no, I would never do anything to hurry it along - the right is going to lose their minds at the reaction.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.

Was the context for this post the timeframe where Trump hadn’t been seen for days and wasn’t even posting on social media, then came the prerecorded statement that some people think was AI? That happened before Kirk’s shooting, so Kirk’s murder is just a pretense. I don’t think people should be posting anything that suggests they’d like the president to die, but if you’re going to fire people who have shared similar feelings about Trump (people who claimed his vanishing from the public eye for a few days got their hopes up or who post about when “it” happens) and Biden, then you’re going to have to fire a LOT of people.

Yup. As much as I look forward to the inevitable demise of our current President - and no, I would never do anything to hurry it along - the right is going to lose their minds at the reaction.


+1. That is one obituary I am going to read with enormous satisfaction.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how some of these people coming out in the new today can be fired for saying "I didn't shed a tear." and "He spewed hate." Even if they were "celebratory," which I must be protected, they do not in any way incite violence.

How is this not an egregious violation of the First Amendment?

And, for the record, 1) I think all political violence is wrong and hurts us all and 2) I think it is in horrible taste to celebrate ANYONE's murder.

But how can these firings possibly stand in a court of law? This is insane.


All businesses have a code of conduct, and if you bring reputational harm to the company, they don’t have to keep you. Ditto with a person that does not share their values. I wouldn’t feel comfortable working with someone who celebrates the death of another person.

And private companies not have to abide by the first amendment, that is the government only.


So you're legitimizing the policing of speech under the "free speech" banner of Charlie Kirk and are saying people are no longer able to do their own thing on their own time with their own social media accounts. Everything you say or do is owned by someone else. It's not a good look for anyone who claims to be a champion of freedom.


Have you never had a job, a real job, one with a contract and Human Resources department? You absolutely can be fired for conduct that happens on your own free time if the company deems it goes against their code of conduct and will bring reputational harm.

Some of the men who marched in Charlottesville back in 2017 were identified and fired from their jobs. This is the same thing.


Do you think that participating in a white supremacy rally is the same as being fired to doing things like posting a quote of someone’s exact words?

Sounds about white.


You are either very naive, ignorant, or have never worked for a private company, public school system, govt sector, etc. Good luck with saying whatever you want to post on a social media site.


No one said that. This is why everyone thinks that maga is so stupid. You’ve earned your reputation.


I'm not maga at all. I'm telling you that you can't post political feelings/beliefs if you have those types of jobs.


Tenured professors can't? What are "these types of jobs"?
Of course, if you have a Trump admin political appointment job, you can post whatever vicious lie you want.


Tenure exists exactly FOR professors to able to speak freely. Because professors who can’t speak freely, can’t teach.



This is what he posted:



Yeah. He deserved to be fired.


The firing is absolutely fine. Being retaliated against and/or jailed and/or threatened to lose his liberties by the president, Stephen Miller, or Pam Bondi is NOT fine because of 1A.

A) His employer is the government which by law has to respect 1A
B) If that post is 6 days old it’s not even about Charlie Kirk


1. I didn’t know he was a govt employee
2. I wasn’t date checking

But, a private employer can do what it wants. —Dem


I’m pp and with a caveat… said employee can also sue the employer for indiscriminate firing if s/he can hold up unfair examples of treatment…like other employees not being fired for inflammatory posts about other political figures.

It’s still a fine line with private employers, though we may be at a tipping point soon.


When you have children and a family to support, as well as other responsibilities, one would be wise to not post questionable content.
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