How can we prepare our children for the coming storm?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Trump isn't merely a president who is "bad at his job." He's a brewing Constitutional crisis. He's moving fast and trying to break things. The people behind him want to provoke constitutional crises, like when Musk was saying Charles III should dissolve parliament unilaterally. They want to break things making sure you're prepared if they succeed is rational.

It hasn't come to a head yet, and we'll see if the institutions of governance are strong enough to withstand the pressure he's putting on them, but that's not assured. The constitution of the Roman Republic worked for hundreds of years before it started to unravel, and then it took another hundred years before that crisis resolved itself (and ended in one man rule).

I bring up Rome because that's the background of the people working to unravel things. Musk has expressly said America needs a Sulla, one of the people who kicked off the civil wars, who revived the dictatorship, and who started the practice of proscribing his enemies.

For all of the talk about history, the real lesson is "it's very early to know how this shakes out." I think the country will PROBABLY survive in a similar place to where it was six months ago, but we are walking towards a crisis that threatens that. I do know that no one ever regretted owning a passport, having some cash on hand, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Trump isn't merely a president who is "bad at his job." He's a brewing Constitutional crisis. He's moving fast and trying to break things. The people behind him want to provoke constitutional crises, like when Musk was saying Charles III should dissolve parliament unilaterally. They want to break things making sure you're prepared if they succeed is rational.

It hasn't come to a head yet, and we'll see if the institutions of governance are strong enough to withstand the pressure he's putting on them, but that's not assured. The constitution of the Roman Republic worked for hundreds of years before it started to unravel, and then it took another hundred years before that crisis resolved itself (and ended in one man rule).

I bring up Rome because that's the background of the people working to unravel things. Musk has expressly said America needs a Sulla, one of the people who kicked off the civil wars, who revived the dictatorship, and who started the practice of proscribing his enemies.

For all of the talk about history, the real lesson is "it's very early to know how this shakes out." I think the country will PROBABLY survive in a similar place to where it was six months ago, but we are walking towards a crisis that threatens that. I do know that no one ever regretted owning a passport, having some cash on hand, etc.

Sorry, I'm a NP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The storm? What is this, qanon?

In a way, yes it is Q. Trump is Q.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your such a pansy OP. Leave your kids alone. Don't allow them to become you.

You're just the same hateful person making stupid comments over and over. Ignore the troll OP

Thank you. Also thank you for spelling you’re correctly so that we can contrast your thoughts with an uneducated fool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

So why did Roosevelt send Mexican American citizens back to Mexico in the 1930s and why were East Coast Japanese not placed in internment camps. Then tell us why both Roosevelts believed in Eugenics and why Franklin Roosevelt insisted that neighborhoods be red lined so that no FHA loans could be used in neighborhoodd with African Americans. You think Trump is scum, look no further than Roosevelt to see the vilest of the vile.

Well then I’ll be sure to oppose Roosevelt when he becomes POTUS. JFC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing can stop what is coming.

Well something can-we all just don't want to think that way.

I believe in Luigi, and my kids will, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since this is a parenting site I figured that we should discuss the best ways to prepare our children for the Oligarchy?

Should we plan to flee? Should we teach them more about world history and economics? Should we set up accounts that they can access overseas?

I obviously have no idea so help me out here!

Some of you have lost your damn minds.

No kidding, most I know in the real world are pretty happy thus far.

Nobody believes you, muskrat troll

[Anonymous]

We were going to start trying for kids this year but now have decided not to have them. I truly hate this man. He is ruining my life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

Is Trump throwing US citizens into internment camps on US soil?

FDR Did.

Did Trump suspend habeoas corpus?

Lincoln did.

Did Trump lock up the Maryland legislature?

Lincoln did.

You're historically ignorant.

Mistakes made twice aren't mistakes, they're choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

You reference these things as if they were problematic, yet you have no problem with Trump doing all of them again plus more?

Someone's unhinged, but it's not who you think...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

I hear you, the world is a dangerous place, and all of the issues you lay out save for the end of Roe (which really just depends on the state you live in) were issues before Trump, and they will be issues after him. I take issue with folks saying they have made the decision to not have babies after witnessing the last two weeks. I mean. go ahead, don't bring kids into an uncertain world, but to explicitly blame Trump for that decision is absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

We want our leaders to learn from
history not repeat it. How is that hard to understand? Stop the WhatAbout crap. And, while you’re at it, go read about countries like Hungary and Turkey and how life turned out for people in those countries when leaders used the SAME tactics Trump & Elon are using.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm curious how would you have prepared your children for the nuclear carnage of the Truman era?

...The witch hunts of the Eisenhower era?
...The brutal and multiple assassinations of elected leaders and the threat of nuclear apocalypse in the Kennedy era?
...The bloody quagmire of the LBJ era?
...The undermining of public trust in the Nixon era?
...The utter malaise of the Carter era?
...The pure greed of the Reagan era?

I could go on.

What is it exactly that you expect from this imperfect country, and what exactly makes you special in this particular period of American upheaval? Nothing. raise your kids accordingly, and with a strong compass, and life will go on.

If you don't see the unique threat Trump poses to the American way of life you are beyond help.

FDR put people in internment camps and Truman killed 200,000 civilians with a nuclear bomb. What were you taught in school? You are historically illiterate, have no context of how bad it was in the past, lack coping skills, and are completely unhinged.

Both Truman and FDR's actions against Japan and Japanese Americans were in response to an act of war committed by Japan. You can disagree with the necessity of these actions in hindsight but the American people in the 1940s had a valid reason to fear the Japanese and a valid reason for why the war in the Pacific needed to be ended (Japan refused to give up and the only alternative to the A-bombs was putting American troops on the ground on Japanese soil which would have led to as many deaths as the bombs caused).

I don't view Trump as a specific threat to the American people but his arrogance and lack of integrity makes him a very poor leader and it's human nature for people to be uncomfortable when their leader is a very poor leader. What happened between the US and Japan 80 years ago does not relate whatsoever.

And THIS is a perfectly reasonable answer. You think he is a poor leader, a bad person, but not a threat to the American people. And that's OK! I think that's all many folks on this thread are pointing out. Disliking a president, thinking they are bad at their job and working towards electing a new one is a normal response towards a disappointing outcome. "Preparing for the coming storm," trying to secure passports, hide money, rethink having a family, etc. is an abnormal, chicken little response. Figure out why you lost, what you misread about the governing majority and how you can convince people that your side is righteous. And hot tip for some other posters on here, it's not writing off everyone who isn't as tuned up as you as a "deranged MAGA moron."

Go ahead and have lots and lots and lots and lots of babies if you choose. There is nothing wrong with someone taking a cold hard look at.......climate change, economic decline, country starting to resemble an oligarchy, lack of affordable housing, lack of good health insurance and healthcare options for your family, lack of respect for health and science, lack of respect for women, decline of basic rights for women, increasing dangers from pregnancy, and on and on and on...and deciding you know what I don't know that I'm going to have a child right now. This is not a country that is serious about doing anything about any of these issues.

I hear you, the world is a dangerous place, and all of the issues you lay out save for the end of Roe (which really just depends on the state you live in) were issues before Trump, and they will be issues after him. I take issue with folks saying they have made the decision to not have babies after witnessing the last two weeks. I mean. go ahead, don't bring kids into an uncertain world, but to explicitly blame Trump for that decision is absurd.

Scroll up and read the words of one of his nominees. White men are the only competant leaders? F bringing a kid into a place woth leaders like that.